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Joni Eriksson Tada
by Pilgrim. Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:16 PM
Does the NASB have a bad reputation
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The PCA's Slide Into the Homosexual Abyss Accelerates
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More foreshadow?
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Numbers in Genesis 46
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"Belonging to God's Family" - John H. Gerstner
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2 hours ago Pilgrims Progress [by ReformedDisciple]
Okay, so I recently stumbled onto a copy of John Bunyan's The Pilgrims Progress.

What should I expect from this book? It'll be a while before I delve into it. Is it worth my time, theologically?
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6 hours ago Joni Eriksson Tada [by Tom]
I am sure many of you have heard of Joni Eriksson Tada. She is a quadriplegic, who quite frankly when I am tempted to feel sorry for myself when my health is not good, wakes me up so I cling to the cross.
She has been a main speaker for Ligonier Ministries on many occasions.
Yet, that is something that I am tossed on, it is the stand of Ligonier ministries to take a biblical stand concerning women teaching men. I may be missing something but it seems to me that Ligonier Ministries as well as other Reformed ministries are going against their own teaching on the subject when they allow Joni Eriksson Tada to speak at their conferences.
Am I wrong on this matter and if not how am I wrong?

Tom
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Yesterday at 07:02 PM More foreshadow? [by ReformedDisciple]
I may be reaching, but, as I'm reading Matthew Henry's commentary on the whole Bible, in Matthew ch. 2 intro. he mentions Jesus' flight into Egypt then back into Israel again.

This seems to me to even point toward the fact that the Gospel will go to the gentiles also. He dwelt among the gentiles even as a baby!

The Gospel began and started in Israel, is now among the gentiles, and will eventually be united in the New Jerusalem, no? I think his toddler journey to and fro and back again may have been a foreshadowing of the way it's all to happen. Is this a reasonable way to think of this?

All thoughts welcome!
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Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:48 PM Does the NASB have a bad reputation [by John_C]
I cringe every time I hear someone say that the NASB is hard to read. It came up last night in our devotional/prayer time. I know I'm not the most literate person in the room, but I have no problems in reading it. They don't argue that it is the most literal translation, just that it is hard to read.
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Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:58 PM Numbers in Genesis 46 [by Meta4]
This is a question about the numbers in Genesis chapter 46. I have consulted commentaries, and it seems they wish only to talk about Stephen's comment in Acts 7:14. However, my question is unrelated to that comment, and is about a seeming discrepancy in the numbers within Genesis 46.

This chapter lists Jacob's descendants who went into Egypt, both male and female. The numbers specifically do not include Jacob's wives, nor the wives of his sons, (nor do they include Jacob himself, except in v.27,) but do include his sons and daughters, grandsons and granddaughters; all those which came from him. The names of his descendants are grouped according to which of Jacob's wives bore them, and a total is given for each of those four groups.

If you add up all the names given, you will find that there are 71. But this includes Er and Onan, who died in Canaan and did not go to Egypt (v.12.) Subtracting two leaves the total at 69. However, this includes Joseph and his two sons Manasseh and Ephraim, who were already in Egypt. So subtracting those three leaves 66, which matches v.26 "All the persons who went with Jacob to Egypt, who came from his body, besides Jacobís sonsí wives, were sixty-six persons in all." Okay so far?

Now verse 27 says "And the sons of Joseph who were born to him in Egypt were two persons. All the persons of the house of Jacob who went to Egypt were seventy." So here we add back Joseph and his two sons, and Jacob himself (all of the house of Jacob,) to arrive at 70. Still good.

The apparent discrepancy occurs when you look at the totals of the four groups, given as 33 (v.15,) 16 (v.18,) 14 (v.22,) and 7 (v.25,) which total 70, rather than 71. So subtracting Er and Onan, Joseph and his two sons, leaves 65 (doesn't match v.26;) and adding back Joseph and his two sons, and Jacob, makes 69, which doesn't match v.27.

If you count the number of names given for the last three groups, Zilpah, Rachel and Bilhah, they match the given totals (16, 14, 7.) However, all of the names listed in the first group of Leah, total 34 which does not match the given total of 33, either before or after removing Er and Onan!

So where is the problem--is it somewhere within the translation, or is it with the guy behind the keyboard? compute confused
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