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Sinless Perfectionism
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Fri May 17, 2019 3:19 AM Sinless Perfectionism [by Tom]
First of all, I know I run into a lot of strange people. whistle
How would you deal with someone who advocates both ‘Open Theism’ and “sinless perfectionism.”
He is trying also to say that there is not one Scripture that says Christ paid for our sins after we are saved. He also claims the following:
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Justin Martyr and all the early fathers agreed with "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin" (I John 3:9). So did Wesley and Oswald Chambers. Justin Martyr, our most famous Christian martyr (100-165AD) wrote to the emperor, "Christians do no wrong." (First Apology).

I think this faith is based on Deut 30:11-14 which says obeying the law of the lord is so easy we need no one to teach us because God has written it on our hearts and minds so we can obey. In Rom 10:6-8 Paul calls it faith and says "this is the word of faith we are proclaiming to you." He contrasts it to Lev (vs. 5).


I quoted 1 John 2:1-2 to him and he disagrees that is saying what I think it is saying. Yet, in his explanation he comes very close, but I am about ready to give up conversing with him; but thought I would ask this first.

Tom
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Thu May 16, 2019 10:06 AM Regeneration [by chestnutmare]
In regeneration nature is not ruined, but rectified. The convert is the same man, but new made. The faculties of his soul are not destroyed, but they are refined; the same violin, but newly tuned. Christ gave not the blind man new eyes, but a new sight to the old ones. Christ did not give Lazarus a new body, but enlivened his old body. So God in conversion doth not bestow a new understanding, but a new light to the old; not a new soul, but a new life to the old one.

~ George Swinnock
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Thu May 16, 2019 10:04 AM The road may be rough [by chestnutmare]
There is a time appointed: when you shall be removed from this vale of tears, and be forever with the Lord. Think of it, and set your face boldly and firmly to go wherever duty calls. The man who has an amputation to suffer must not dwell on the operation but must pass in thought beyond, to the restoration of health, and the continuance of life. This, Christian, is the way to endure, and to be more than a conqueror. It is to reckon that the sufferings of the present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that shall be revealed. You may sow in tears, but you shall reap in joy. The road may be rough, but it will soon bring you home.

~ William Jay
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Thu May 16, 2019 10:01 AM Unless the heart be changed [by chestnutmare]
There may be several things which may help to make the life fair in the eyes of men; but nothing will make it amiable in the eyes of God, unless the heart be changed and renewed. All the medicines which can be applied, without the sanctifying work of the Spirit, though they may cover, they can never cure the corruption and diseases of the soul.

~ George Swinnock.
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Fri May 10, 2019 2:52 AM The Reformed Doctrine of Election [by Tom]
The Reformed Doctrine of Election
As probably most of you are aware; when the discussion of the Reformed Doctrine of Election is brought up. Many non-Calvinists stoop to really low level to try to disprove it.
I just had one of those silly conversations. He told me that in order for the Reformed view of election to be correct, the Bible would need to tell us explicitly why God elects some and not others.
He went onto say that seeing how the Bible does not tell us. It must be arbitrary, like a lottery.
I then spent a fair amount of time showing him exactly what we believe and how that is not "arbitrary".
He then told me Webster's definition of arbitrary and he said it obviously described what we believed seeing we don't know what the reason is.
To be quite frank; I started to be embarrassed for him.
I bow out of the conversation leaving him in his silliness.
To make matters worse, he claimed he was a Calvinist for many years; before he abandoned it.
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