Sorry, I didn’t realize I had not included the author’s name, it is Christopher C. Warren. Yes, I did read the first one and skimmed the second article you posted. As with just about everything, there always seems to be two sides, even amongst those who claim to know the original languages. I pretty much take the position of both the articles I submitted. I do not believe that women are to hold positions of leadership, such as Pastor, Elder, Deacon and etc. My wife, who is much smarter than I, would be a good example of someone who is female, that I have learned a great deal from in the realm of Spiritual truth. I believe common sense tells me I would be a fool not to listen to her, for a number of reasons, one of which would be where I am sleeping tonight. I am reminded of Paul’s words in Gal.3:28, “There is neither Jew or Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male or female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus”. These are strange words from a man who had such a problem with women in the churches. I totally respect Dr Grudem and have read his book on “Systematic Theology”. He is a good example of a theologian who knows the original languages, yet, probably would disagree with you and others on this forum in respect to the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Which helps substantiate different interpretations from Greek professors over words of Scripture, amongst themselves. George