Tom,<br><br>I am sure Pilgrim will answer you, but...<br><br>[color:red] I can't help but ask this question. How do you know that Bush isn't lying in this matter (or at least some points) and how do you know that Chrétien isn't saying what he actually believes, not just for public opinion? </font color=red><br><br><ul>1. What right do "you" and "others" have to mis-trust him seeing you have "no" evidence, but just your "un-evidenced" speculation? What scripture do you use to support such thought and actions?<br>2. Are you an American citizen? Then do not comment on my president, you do not have the right to "condemn"! The Bible says to pray for our leaders Tom.<br>3. Have you paid attention to the news, [color:red]<font class="big">Huge Military Chemical Factory</font color=red></font mu=big> in Iraq--now that is FACTORY and not only the chemicals themselves. The U.N. inspectors admit they had no knowledge of the Chemical Factory? Of course, SH disarmed and is not doing anything wrong, is he? Of course, Chrétien is right, isn't he? Chirac is right, isn't he?<br>4. Now SH is in violation of the Geneva Convention again, of course he is so innocent? Americans and many others are dying Tom, so Canadians and others will not have to fear the tyrants of WMD![/LIST][color:red]I know Chrétien has lied before (GST), ....</font color=red><br><br><ul>1. So, you know Chrétien [color:red]has lied</font color=red> before, but above you "may" desire to take his side of view, because Bush [color:blue]may</font color=blue> be lying. [color:red]Certainty</font color=red> vs. [color:blue]Speculation</font color=blue>, and you embrace the Speculation that one may be lying over the Certainty that one is a proven liar, interesting philosophy.<br>2. Did you know that Chirac has had economic dealings with Iraq since 1974?<br>3. Did you know France helped Iraq begin their nuclear program?<br>4. Now if these liberal politicians have lied before, have present economic ties, and assisted in the beginning of a nuclear program with Iraq, what reason would I have to trust Chrétien or Chirac over Bush, who I have absolutely no evidence on? Chirac needs public opinion to keep his claims in Iraq alive, Tom![/LIST] Tom, the Bible says to pray for our leaders. I pray for all of them. Will you join me or continue to be a pragmatic pacifist...which in some words you deny, but in others and your attitude you embrace: <br><br>Tom said, [color:red]Though I do believe Bush is telling the truth and support him in this war</font color=red>.... [color:blue]I can't help but ask this question. How do you know that Bush isn't lying in this matter (or at least some points)</font color=blue>, which terminology is akin to saying, "I know Jesus is God, but I can't help but ask if the virgin birth is false or not (or at least some parts of it)." Tom, while I do not really think you support the later statement above, how could you support the former statement? It is not rational!<br><br>Tom, my greatest concern for all the coalition forces is that once they surround Baghdad the Saddam regime will unleash some "dirty bombs" killing not only many coalition forces, but the "innocent" Iraqi's as well. So, if you do not mind, I am going to continue to pray concerning this situation and not make any further comments. In the light of all the evidence you will either accept the truth or won't...........

Reformed and Always Reforming,