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fredman,
Hmmm, so here you say that man has no free will except to either believe or reject Christ. Did Luther teach this? I don't recall such a notion coming through his polemics against Erasmus. Sounds like Romanism my friend.
I think you meant to say, "no free will to either believe or reject Christ." No, Luther rejects the free will of the Romanists:
CANON IV. If any one shall affirm, that man’s freewill, moved and excited by God, does not, by consenting, cooperate with God, the mover and exciter, so as to prepare and dispose itself for the attainment of justification; if moreover, anyone shall say, that the human will cannot refuse complying, if it pleases, but that it is inactive, and merely passive; let such an one be accursed"! CANON V.- If anyone shall affirm, that since the fall of Adam, man’s freewill is lost and extinguished; or, that it is a thing titular, yea a name, without a thing, and a fiction introduced by Satan into the Church; let such an one be accursed"!
Council of Trent
This hereditary sin is so deep and [horrible] a corruption of nature that no reason can understand it, but it must be [learned and] believed from the revelation of Scriptures, Ps. 51, 5; Rom. 6, 12ff ; Ex. 33, 3; Gen. 3, 7ff Hence, it is nothing but error and blindness in regard to this article what the scholastic doctors have taught, namely:... that man has a free will to do good and omit evil, and, conversely, to omit good and do evil.
Smalcald Articles, Martin Luther
Sadly, our Pelagian world, the Papists, the Arminians, and even some Calvinists and Lutherans are supporting the fiction of free will introduced into the church by Satan.
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