CovenantInBlood,

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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "forensic justification."

Forensic justification maintains that the only effective cause of our forgiveness is the verdict of God that takes place outside of ourselves. We are declared “not guilty” by God entirely on the basis of what Christ has done for us.

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Now, I believe God can work through baptism to cause regeneration, but just as preaching the Word does not infallibly regenerate, neither does baptism, and so those baptized as infants should not be presumed regenerate.

Should they be presumed unregenerate?

The Lutheran view would be the same as yours except we assume the baptized infant is regenerate/believes (justification by faith alone). Regeneration can occur before, in, or after baptism through the ministry of the Word. If there are any Lutherans who dispute that, please show me from scripture or the confessions where I am wrong.

Last edited by speratus; Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:24 AM.