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I would disagree that this “is a strong argument for the Credobaptist,” as (1) many credos have similar (or worse) problems as you have in your church and baptize anyway, and (2) they baptize outside the proper covenantal system that has been established in Scripture. Please let me clarify. What I was trying to say is that, I believe that the Credobaptist argue that believers baptism strengthens the church. I didn't intend that statement to sound like I was advocating believers baptism. But I agree with you J.E. If you really take the time to look at the condition of the churches who practice believers baptism, the same problems exist. But I believe that an advocate of believers baptism will be prone to use that as their defense. Of course that is just what I've perceived from reading arguments against infant baptism. I could very well be wrong. Biblical Doctrines are biblical truths meant to be understood and believed by the Church and others profaning their use does not invalidate them. We do not need to change correct doctrine just because some in the PCUSA (or other denomination) are misapplying other truths: not preaching the Gospel, et. al. Thus, the problem here is not with infant baptism, but with involvement with and submission to: no Gospel being preached, easy believism, no discipline, et. al…. Yes correct! This is what I was trying to convey. My title of this post might have been misleading. I didn't mean that there was a problem "with" infant baptism today, I just meant the "issues that people have" with infant baptism today. Like I stated, this is a thread for people who believe in infant baptism like myself. But as a believer of infant baptism, I've had problems associated with this doctrine. I didn't fully understand why it was that I believed what I now believe. Which is the case in almost everything that concerns doctrine. It's often preached about but not explained. So we start off believing but not really understanding. Yes... I affirm the importance of Creeds and Confessions. We need to grow in the Community of Christ, like minded, or how are we supposed to go on to maturity. So I am advocating sound biblical teaching. With all due respect, I understand that you are leaving after your deacon term and going to a PCA Church, but what “biblical commitment” do you have to an apostate Church “presently”? Where in Scripture do you find it necessary to submit your family to false doctrine(s)? I have problems with my church and the PCUSA, but I haven't really considered them "Apostate." There are good Christians at my current church of whom I fully expect to meet in Glory. I've made a commitment of service and I intend on keeping it. It wouldn't be right for me to abandon my position and my flock. Plus, another couple of months isn't a long time considering how long it's taken for a change to fully come about in myself and my family. But I do appreciate your honesty in the matter J.E. and I appreciate your counsel. As your sig states, we are reformed and always reforming. Y.B.I.C, Dave.
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. - Galatians 2:16
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