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averagefellar said: I'm sorry, but you can't have it both ways. Did Christ come to actually save or only make salvation a mere possibility ? If the purpose of Christ's death was to actually make an atonement, actually redeem, draw all to Him infallibly, He has failed. Since God is incapable of failure, Christ's death atoned for all the sins it was supposed to.
"He came to SEEK and to save those who were LOST"
He did save/make atonement for those who believed [look up "believed"-means an act of belief--an action! not to be confused with a work] so that was success! Anything but failure! What Christ accomplished on the cross should NEVER be thought of as that!!! You don't have the right to define infallible. If He came to die for only those who He KNEW would believe, then you can not say otherwise. It didn't say he died for the saved! That would have been a waste! He died for the lost!
-Jonathan Ditmer
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