Dave,

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I would just like to know why it's so hard for people to understand that Paul's ministry was to the Gentiles? This is very very obvious. When we make the transition from the old dispensation to the new, we're including "everyone." Or as Paul likes to put it "all" people and not just the Jews. Come on give me a break, we are not referring to unlimited atonement! We are referring to limited atonement to those that God the Father has chosen for His Son in Jesus Christ for "all" people and not just his previously chosen children,the nation of Israel. Again, I just don't understand why this is so hard to understand, it's pretty clear to me. Go back and re-read Romans. For that matter, re-read the whole bible.

Men really just don't like the idea that God doesn't love every single individual on earth, in fact, that He hates some enough to give them over to their sins and ultimately to hell. They look first and foremost not at God's glory, but at man's worth. They do not see that because of sin, man is worthless before God. In fact, they find abhorrent the idea that God loves Himself first and foremost, and not man, because they love man first and foremost, and not God. However, God, because of His loving nature, did not allow all men to perish, but chose to save a remnant from destruction, a remnant which He would make faithful and holy to Him—and this they proceed to call rape, because man's will is not operative in his own rebirth. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" />

Truly man is a vain creature.


Kyle

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.