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For what it is worth, this is what I wrote in a post to a charismatic a few years ago on this subject. Maybe it will be of some insight for you. I understand the perfect as the completed canon, and I do so for a couple of reason.
First, "teleion" is better rendered "the completed," rather than "the perfect." During the time of the apostles, the divine revelation of prophesy and knowledge would still be in transmission. God was still in the process of giving revelation to the church through the apostles and the prophets. However, I believe Paul had in mind that a new covenant document, just like the OT, would be provided by the Lord. Thus, the completed revelation of God's New Covenant revelation would eventually come to the Christians.
Furthermore, the illustrations Paul uses are analogous to this idea of partial revelation in comparison to completed revelation. Paul uses three major illustration:
(1) A child replaced by an adult (13:11);
(2) the hazy replaced by the clear (13:12) (by the way, I understand the phrase "face to face" not to refer to seeing Jesus in his full glory, but as a analogy of a person being able to see a clear reflection, as opposed to a hazy reflection);
(3) Imprecise knowing replaced by precise knowing (13:12). The whole point of Paul's words in 13:8-12 is to inform us that these gifts had a specific purpose for a stated period of time. Eventually, they will come to an end. I think tongues ended at the destruction of Jerusalem, and prophecy and knowledge at the finishing of the NT canon. Fred
"Ah, sitting - the great leveler of men. From the mightest of pharaohs to the lowest of peasants, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" M. Burns
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