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OrthodoxCatholic,
Since you are unwilling to exegete ( I don't think there needs to be 150 pages), I will surmise that you can't adequately defend your postulations!
Here you are saying that in God's first plan, Adam failed and so God had to make another plan, which was to send His Son, to start all over again? Hmmmm where have I heard this before?
And then you say:
"Likewise, since Jesus is now in Heaven, there must be a covenantal (federal) head over the earthly and physical people of God in this life. That is the Holy Father"
Where in Scripture is this stated or even implied? Why can't we have the Word to guide us along with the Holy Spirit? Why must we have someone to touch, feel, and listen to on earth?
According to Church Fathers, all the apostles were given to same privileges as Peter, to preach the gospel and to call sinners to repentance. Though it was first given to Peter, because he was the one to first answer Christ,
" You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God."
The "rock", refers first to Christ, as it does throughout Scripture, and secondly to Peter's faith, announced in his reply to Jesus' question. The bishops and elders are taking over from the apostles to guide the church.
John 20:29 "Jesus said to him,"Thomas, because you have seen Me, You have believed, blessed are those who have not seen Me and yet have believed."
Heb 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
You sure have lots of little "keys" YOU found in Scripture that no one else seems to have seen! How's that?
In His Hands,
Ruth
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