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speratus said:
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CovenantInBlood said:
In what does the "Real Presence" consist, Speratus? To say that Christ's body and blood are present with the bread and wine is not the same as to say that they are the bread and wine. The phrase in Latin, hoc est corpus meum ("this is my body"), which Luther insisted on does not indicate that the body is present with the bread. The Romanists go still further and say that the bread and wine become the body and blood, but even that is not to say that they are the body and blood, for Christ never said they the bread and wine become anything, but that they already are.

We know from scripture that the bread and wine remain unchanged and that the body and the blood of Christ are distributed to and received by those who eat and drink. In the communication of the divine attributes, the body and blood of Christ are present in, with, and under the bread and wine in the incomprehensible spiritual mode in which He neither occupies nor vacates space.

To quote an insistent Luther, "hoc EST"! Scripture knows nothing of Christ's body being present "in, with, and under" the bread and wine. Christ said, "This IS My body"! Nowhere did He say, "My body is present in, with, and under". If you want to treat the text as literally as possible, then you must consider the bread itself to be the body, and the wine itself to be the blood.

Kyle

I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.