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Pilgrim said: I say absolutely not. The application of that which was objectively secured by Christ's atonement is done in time; the exact moment as foreordained by God in eternity through the means which He also foreordained. One is ONLY justified when their is personal union with Christ. And that union is only actualized by faith; a faith which is wrought by the Holy Spirit in regeneration. Though their (elects) justification was eternally ordained and infallible secured by Christ in his atonement the application of it occurs in time.
But aren't you saying something similar to that of the Brief Statement Lutherans? There are objective and subjective components of justification? And, by saying there is no justification without faith, aren't you saying that something must be added to the atonement to make it efficacious, a tenet of Arminianism?
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