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DansingWall said: Just by looking at the wording of this passage, it seems to me that this covenant has not yet come. That's because you are ignoring verse 6 right before the passage: "But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, by as much as He is also the mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted on better promises." This was written after Christ rose from the dead and the very last verse i posted says that the old is ready to vanish. Not that it has. I to am waxing old and my flesh is ready to vanish. But...Im still here. Verses 8—12 quote Jer. 31:31—34, which prophesies the very covenant which has been enacted in verse 6. Further proof that this covenant is already in effect: "For this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins" (Matt. 26:28). "This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many" (Mark 14:24). "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood" (Luke 22:20). "This cup is the new covenant in My blood" (I Cor. 11:25). The reason v. 13 says that the old is "ready to disappear" is because the Temple in Jerusalem was still standing and the sacrifices were still being offered when the epistle was written. The whole point of the epistle is that we now have a better covenant and a perfect high priest in Christ Jesus. To deny that the new covenant has arrived is to deny Christ's very blood.
Kyle
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.
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