The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Are You a Traducianist or Creationist?

You gotta be kidding, right?

Here are the two texts you claim show that fallen mankind is "created in the image of Satan"?

John 8:44 (ASV) "Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof."

Psalms 73:20 (ASV) "As a dream when one awaketh, So, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou wilt despise their image."

IF you want to press John 8:44 to mean that the Devil is the actual "father" of fallen mankind, then again, you have put yourself not only out of the proverbial "park" but out of this universe... Satan is an angelic being and is incapable of propagation within his own kind never mind producing human souls/beings. If fallen mankind somehow acquires this alleged "image of Satan", which you still haven't shown to be found in Scripture, then people aren't "created" with this image but it is thus added at some period of time after birth. If they therefore have to acquire this "image of Satan", then individuals are born either without an image, ala: John Locke's "tabula rasa", or they are born as brute animals, or they are born as the Scripture teaches with the image of God albeit radically fallen, marred, distorted and wicked in all its parts.

Why don't you try dealing with a text like Gen 9:6, which up to now you have managed to avoid. But I'm finding myself very impatient and thus wanting you to deal with the text. Here it is below so you don't have spend extra time looking for it in your Bible.

Genesis 9:5-6 (ASV) "And surely your blood, [the blood] of your lives, will I require; At the hand of every beast will I require it. And at the hand of man, even at the hand of every man's brother, will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: For in the image of God made he man."

These words of God came to Noah after the flood; a considerable time after the Fall and thus refer to fallen mankind and not pre-Fall Adam.

In His Grace,