OK, then I guess we have the usual impasse here. I do believe that you misunderstand what I was getting at - not at all focusing on natural revelation (that was only in passing). But perhaps I was unclear in bringing my point across. Oh well, I don't have time now to go further on this thread.

I do notice that you didn't really look into my particular points, for instance, how he sets up he sets up advice by getting us to "Be still...etc." There is no use in me going to the time to argue on the basis of these details if it is to no avail. (Too many irons, too little fire)

Tom Riggle