Why is it invalid? Can you sense the incredibleness in the perfectedness of a free will to choos sin nature or God's nature? How could somethin so righteous be anything less? Indeed it would not be so righteous if it were something less like destiny.<br><br>Why don't you think I know what a will entails? Just like there is laws of the spirit there are laws of the soul. In the soul it has its functions of mind will and emotion and the will has its respective functions made in the image of God.<br>The Souls Faculty of Volition<br><br>"Give me not up to the will (original, "soul") of my adversaries" Ps. 27.12<br><br>"Thou dost not give him up to the will (original, ,soul,) of his enemies" Ps. 41.2<br><br>"Delivered you to the greed (original, "soul") of your enemies" Ezek. 16.27<br><br>"You shall let her go where she will (original, "soul)" Dent. 21.14<br><br>"Aha, we have our heart's desire (original "soul")" Ps. 35.25<br><br>"Or swear an oath to bind himself (original, "soul") by a pledge" Num. 30.2<br><br>"Now set your mind and heart (original, "soul") to seek the <br><br>Lord your God" I Chron. 22.19<br><br>"They desire and lift up their soul to return to dwell there" Jer. 44.14 Amplified<br><br>"These afflictions my soul refuses to touch" job 6.7<br><br>Amplified "My soul chooseth strangling, death, rather <br><br>than my bones job 7.15 Darby<br><br>The "will or "heart" here points to the human will. "Set the heart," "lift up their soul," "refuse" and "choose" are all exercises of the will, having their springs in the soul.<br><br>Here are the attributes of the soul's will all typed out for us referencing scripture<br>http://www.worldinvisible.com/library/nee/sprtmnv3/part9chapter1.htm<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Why was the will made perfect but not knowledge or power or wisdom or foreknowledge? </font><hr></blockquote><p><br>Because God lovingly knew we could not handle it. He had foreknowledge of this. Lets believe that such processing power to ascertain all knowledge is not a light thing of which only God has the skill to utilize envelope and operate and contain. But perfect will is simple thing, something we can handle, yea or nay. Is it pure, or is it not? yea or nay, what say you? trust me I am God God says eat this tree dont eat that tree, what say you, yea or nay. Such perfect free will. It all starts here from Him.<br>I understand God and why he did it this way. Because is the perfect way. Anything less would be uncivilized.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Likewise man will not choose to trust with his life what is foolishness to him. Therefore why do you expect man to be able to choose the gospel if it is foolishness to him? Belief isn't chosen and therefore neither can God. </font><hr></blockquote><p><br>Man's perfect free will is not foolish. Man chooses the gospel, though not all men, because the gospel is God's redemptive design for man's perfect free will to restore man to before the fall, even better than that, to before the fall and then to accept the tree of life tipified from Christ.<br><br>Choice is not dependent upon belief. Choice is perfect. Choice chooses freely given by God. God is accumulating those perfect free wills that choose Him whom believe because they chose under His given free will. For free will is made in the image of God following spirit perfectly, the pure function of conscience and pure function of intuition and pure function of communion in the spirit. Belief occurs because the choice is made to follow conscience and intuition and thus God, that is a conscience and inuition that is non offending and thus able to find God through choice. Choice is perfect. Choice makes the man and that man is either saved or going to hell, no two ways about it. Them who choose to believe and them who choose not to believe. When God created he chose to create. He also believed otherwise why would he believe if he did not choose in his perfect righteousness?<br><br>God will trust with His life what He created a perfect will to receive His life in the Garden and in Christ. Just because centuries have passed under bondage of sin does not mean that free will is not empowerd to choose. It may have a heck of a time but the way of salvation is made available now.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Likewise your perfect free will has chosen not to address peoples questions and complaints. Such direct avoidance is watchman Nee's way? You may think the way you are interacting is proper but i think you are just plain rude. is that what Watchman nee taught, to be rude to others when they honestly seek answers?</font><hr></blockquote><p><br>Can you be more specific? what complaints, what questions? Avoidance is not my way nor Nee's way. <br>How am I rude?<br>How am I not helping you?<br>Help me to understand what it is you are asking from me? specifically<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>

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