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[color:"blue"]Even some men were saved under the hardness of the law though so few.



Where is your Scriptural basis for this?

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[color:"blue"]Do you see how it is no circular reasoning now?



Since you haven't presented any Scriptural evidence, no. You have only restated the same thing again, without the explanation of how, which was the circular argument.

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[color:"blue"]...just because the sinful nature exist does not mean it wins all the time.



Check your definitions, [b]by nature/[b]. In an unchanged person, who has not been raised up with Christ (Eph 2), there is only the sinful nature. Only. There is nothing else to win any time. Your view of sin, and the sinfulness of man is too weak.

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[color:"blue"]that is why it is a redemptive design to lead man out without touching his being his willk,



Man's will is preeminent? Only in secular humanism, not Christianity. Do you remember the Lord's Prayer?

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[color:"blue"] This is very profound to know this while man's intuition is dead and communion is dead the knowledge in the conscience is retained at least on some level.



So, what you are saying is that what man is doing at a particular moment is what makes him good or bad at that particular moment? A new creation in Christ is affected in every part of his/her being, not just one moment at a time, but continuously. There is no neutrality in mankind. We make choices based on our strongest inclinations at the time of the choice, but our strongest inclinations are decided by our nature. Before we are born again from above, and our nature is changed, our strongest inclination will be always evil continuously all the time (Romans 3).

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[color:"blue"]He does not draw all because it is unrighteous of him to draw that which does not accept Him but He does all He can do to allow all willingly if all willing allow.



If God does all He can do and fails, He is not omnipotent. We do not serve a weak God. If someone must alow God top do things, that someone would be taking the place of God, and God is no longer all-powerful.

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[color:"blue"]I am clear, believe me. Are you? If so then we both worship a different Christ and a different God. Think that through.



You are clear on what? Describing why your belief is valid? No, that can't be it since not a single person here has been convinced. Or, is it that you are clear to yourself on what this particular writer has said. Yes, Troy, we worship a different Christ and God, and I am concerned for your soul. I will be praying for God to work in your life.


Grace is but glory begun;
Glory is but grace perfected!
- Jonathan Edwards