Unknown<br><br>Although there is truth in what your quote says.<br>It begs the question, when someone goes to their pastor for counseling and the pastor tries to help that person to get through their mental anguish, are they wrong in doing so?<br><br>I am not suggesting that a pastor or a councilor use worldly means to help that person. In fact they shouldn't, but if what you are saying is correct, then the hurting believer is left to their own devises, which sometimes can lead to dire consequences.<br><br>Years ago I took a counseling course put on by the church I was attending. What I remember most in that course, is that over 90% of good counseling is just being a good listening ear. When someone is actually listening to what a person is saying, then chances are they will not spout off with something that will not help the person.<br><br>Tell me, what is wrong with that? <br><br>I can tell you from personal experience from having grown up in an alcoholic family. That I suffered greatly, and it was the Lord that helped me get over all the mental anguish. But it is equally true that God used Christian people to get me through that. <br><br>Tom<br>