Originally Posted by KentDMc
So I humbly propose this this problematic argument and ask you to respond. My logical argument is A leads to B which leads to C. (A)Calvinism believes that a person is predestined to be saved, regardless of that person's actions or the actions of any other persons. (B)The action that the minister takes of going to witness to the dying man or not will have no bearing on the man's eternal soul. (C) Therefore, there is no point in witnessing to the dying man.

Hey Kent,

sorry for the tangents and thanks for your understanding, I'll try to stay on track!

I think you're oversimplifying the matter, and I think this is what Pilgrim was getting at....

There are means used, the sharing of the gospel. If the gospel message isn't presented there is no hope. So it is not as simple as A+B=C. It all has to play out in this life. You are right that we can't save ourselves. But when we are placed in a position to respond to the gospel or to share the gospel we have a duty to comply. The fact that we don't is not God's fault but our burden as fallen creatures. The fact that we do, is to God's glory, becasue He granted us the grace to do so. And God gets the full glory, we cannot boast becasue we are recipients of unmerited favor!

AC

The mercy of God is necessary not only when a person repents, but even to lead him to repent, Augustine