Originally Posted by Tom
Pilgrim

Glad you could provide me with something to ponder.
As you may have guessed why I am asking these questions has to do with people I know who embrace only 4 of the 5 points.
There are a number of salient articles in this section: The Atonement of the Lord Christ. One in particular which you will doubtless benefit from is by Charles W. Bronson, The Extent of the Atonement. Of course, there is the unassailable John Owen challenge/statement, For Whom Did Christ Die?.

Originally Posted by Tom
Also, I want to touch on the issue of "double predestination". I have friends who agree that "double predestination" makes logical sense. However, they don't see it taught in Scripture, therefore, they do not believe logic should be part of the equation. Some say that "predestination" is biblical for the elect, but not for the non-elect.
1. One must be careful about dispensing with 'logic', especially since 'logic' originates with God. The Scriptures encourage us to use 'logic', e.g., Isa 1:18; Acts 17:2; 18:4.
2. To hold to a view that asserts that God exercised His divine power and authority in predestinating some (the elect) to salvation, but had no involvement with the damnation of the non-elect, you are left with nothing more than Deism and not biblical Christianity. Is there anything which does not exist and is under God's providence to bring to pass all that He has so willed? To answer in the affirmative is to embrace Atheism.
3. There are lots of salient articles on this issue HERE. Of course, there is R.C. Sproul's classic article (btw, this is the #1 accessed article on The Highway), Double Predestination.

Originally Posted by Tom
I believe Romans 9 speaks on "double predestination", but some 5 pointers disagree totally with this.
I heartily agree with you that Romans 9 is more than relevant and sets forth "double" predestination. grin


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