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Tom,

I would guess the entire chapter could be quoted, but here are a few passages which appear to me to set forth God's descriminating predestination and election BOTH for the elect and the reprobate:

Romans 9:11-13 (ASV) "for [the children] being not yet born, neither having done anything good or bad, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth, it was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. Even as it is written, Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

Romans 9:18 (ASV) "So then he hath mercy on whom he will, and whom he will be hardeneth."

Romans 9:21-23 (ASV) "Or hath not the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor? What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering vessels of wrath fitted unto destruction: and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory,"