The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum To: kiwimac

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So I how do I ascertain for myself the truth of a proposition?, For me there are a number of ways (all of which are trammeled by having to be filtered through my own personal cultural / education matrix.

Firstly, what is the sense of the whole of scripture?, How does the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine & Covenants speak to me about whatever it is I am attempting to find a place whereon to stand.

How does that accord with my sense of God's leading in my own life?, What does my conscience have to say?, Deep down inside where my life intersects [color:blue]with the life of the trinity what is the response?

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I would be glad to interact with you on the matter of "inspiration" if you so desire. But I think I would prefer to continue dialoging with you concerning the above statements as they are an example of what I was asking about and do more to exacerbate the issue than answer it.

The Bible, the Book of Mormon and the Doctrines and Covenants are at great variance with each other, especially on what they teach concerning the being and nature of God. Yet, you make reference to the "trinity" in your reply? This seems to be antithetical to your methodology? How can you be certain that God is "triune"? or that the Lord Christ is one of the three persons of the divine Trinity, co-eternal, co-equal and of the same essence of the other two members of the Godhead?

I'm assuming, perhaps wrongly, that you embrace the deity of Jesus Christ. Would I be correct in this assumption? If so, then surely this creates an enormous problem in regard to your subjective methodology for ascertaining "truth", which perhaps you might define for me. For when I speak of "truth" I am speaking of "true truth"; propositional truth, which is infallible and inerrant for it comes from God, albeit through different means.

Hebrews 1:1-2 (ASV) "God, having of old time spoken unto the fathers in the prophets by divers portions and in divers manners, hath at the end of these days spoken unto us in [his] Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, through whom also he made the worlds; . . ."

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John 5:39 (ASV) "Ye search the scriptures, because ye think that in them ye have eternal life; and these are they which bear witness of me;" . . . 17:8 "for the words which thou gavest me I have given unto them; and they received [them], and knew of a truth that I came forth from thee, and they believed that thou didst send me."

It would appear from what Jesus said, that the Scriptures are God's very own words. Further, the words which He spoke are the Father's very own words and He admonished all who heard Him to accept them as such; reliable, infallible and inerrant. He said, "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I say unto you I speak not from myself: but the Father abiding in me doeth his works." (John 14:10).

So, again, how can you consult these other sources, even your own subjective "feeling" and think that you can come to any apprehension of "truth"?