Originally Posted by Tom
I would agree that the belief that faith precedes regeneration is un-biblical. However I don't necessarily believe it puts them in the Arminian camp.
I now have met quite a few people who believe that way, however what we would call regeneration they would call something else.
They use the same language we use, except for the word "regeneration", mainly because their understanding of the word is different.
Tom
Well, that begs the following questions:

1. What is their understanding (definition) of regeneration?
2. What is the spiritual state of the naturally born sinner?
3. IF the answer to #2 is that the naturally born sinner is "Totally Depraved", i.e., the person is spiritually DEAD, then what occurs previous to the sinner exercising faith which makes it possible for the sinner to believe?

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