Originally Posted by alan parsonage
He loves me, He loves me not
You say Yes, the Father and the Son are one and there is no contradiction between them. Do these passages support that God loves all men without exception? Answer yes they are consistent with it
Really? The truth is I say, "NO!" The Father from eternity decreed to save a remnant out of Adam's fallen race and give them to the Son. He thus chose each by name and predestined them to salvation in Christ. The Son, being one with the Father agreed to become man and give Himself as a vicarious substitute for them in order to accomplish their salvation. This is historically known as the "Covenant of Redemption" which was formed in eternity. Also, the Holy Spirit, being one with the Father and Son agreed to work regeneration in the elect through the Gospel, bring them to Christ working faith in them and preserving them in that faith, and sanctifying them throughout their appointed time on earth. (Ps 2; Isa 53:10-12; John 5:17-31, 36-37, 43; 6:37-40, 57; 7:28-29, 38-39; 8:16-19, 26-29, 38, 42, 49-54; 9:4; 10:14-18, 25-30, 36-38; 12:23-28, 44-50; 13:3, 20, 31-32; 14:9-14, 16-20, 24-26; 15:8-15, 24-27; 16:7-16, 27-28; 17).

I have already provided clear passages of Scripture that incontrovertibly show that God loves some whom He chose to save and that He hates others. He is angry with the wicked day and night and has prepared Hell for them, the Devil and the fallen angels. Christ came and died for those whom the Father gave Him... NOT for all men, else salvation would be universal, which clearly Scripture teaches it is not.

Originally Posted by alan parsonage
You say How do you reconcile the fact that the Lord Christ preached in parables so that in order that, purpose] they should not be saved... except to those whom it is given to see, hear and comprehend the Gospel.? In Matthew we have the same truth expressed in another way
Answer: are you saying that because these were not on God's good list so they were spoken to in parables? So before that everyone in the crowd must have been on his 'elect' list. This is a judgment reaction , the default is always love. this parallels how God treats us now , Drawing us all in but removing that if we sin too much.
The text, Mark 4:10-12 is more than perspicuous revealing that Christ taught in parables so that the hearers would not be saved, i.e., they would remain in their God-hating sinful state and under the just judgment of God (cf. John 12:37-41; Matt 11:25-27). There is no "God's good list" for their is "There is none righteous, no, not one; There is none that understandeth, There is none that seeketh after God;" (Rom 3:10,11). Can you give one single passage that shows that God "draws us all"? Again, all is needed is one instance where God only draws some and your presupposition is false: see John 6:44, (cf. Jh 6:39; 11:7,9,11,24).

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