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So, are you saying that Hebrews 8 is to be understood apart from the rest of Scripture? or what? I'll nibble on this one but don't think I'm ready to bite. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/evilgrin.gif" alt="" />
Im not sure what ya mean old boy. The scripture says what it says. Its not here yet. Period. Is it real cold up there yet. We are startin to warm up a bit here.
DansingWall said: Im not sure what ya mean old boy. The scripture says what it says. Its not here yet. Period. Is it real cold up there yet. We are startin to warm up a bit here.
Scripture says nothing of the sort. You have grossly misread Hebrews 8. Even verse 6 of the same chapter says, "But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, by as much as He is also the mediator of a better covenant, which has been enacted on better promises." Verses 8—12 quote Jer. 31:31—34, which prophesies the very covenant which has been enacted in verse 6!
And to further show your error, let us look to the Lord's Supper!
"For this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins" (Matt. 26:28).
"This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many" (Mark 14:24).
"This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood" (Luke 22:20).
"This cup is the new covenant in My blood" (I Cor. 11:25).
Kyle
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.
DansingWall said: The blood covenant which was written in the law of Moses as a shadow was fullfilled in Christ.
Then there is this covenant
HEBREWS 8 [8] For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: [9] Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. [10] For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [11] And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. [12] For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. [13] In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
The above scripture is speaking of a covenant, that if you read the scripture and believe what it says, youll come to the conclusion that it has not yet arrived.
The blood covenant was written in the Law of Moses? The heartland covenant? I have never heard this explained like this.
THe blood of Christ is the eternal covenant of redemption.
I tried reading this section of Hebrews 17 times, how many more times do I have to read it to conclude as you do>?
And what does this have to do with regeneration in the OT?
There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.
Still under the Old Covenant? I better call all the goat and sheep farmers in the catskills and ask them if they have been missing any livestock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Then I will check the game farm also!!!!!!!
There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.
Joe K you wrote And what does this have to do with regeneration in the OT?
Your right, this is off topic. If someone could start a thread on Hebrews 8, that would be good. Ive looked but cant find how to post a new topic. Maybe im not allowed, being a troll and all.
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Blessings, Kim
Trust the past to God's mercy, the present to God's love and the future to God's providence." - St. Augustine Hiraeth
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