I know how to use a gun. I know how to clean and do maintain a gun. I'm just glad that I haven't had the need for one. But I am a Jesus Freak who views them as a necessary evil. I wish the government would get rid of crack instead of guns in the inner city (where I feel lead to do ministry). Be cool with your killer toys.
I just view them as tools, which can be used positively or negatively. I use mine to hunt and sport shoot for relaxation. My wife carries at times for protection. I keep my bullets seperate from the firearms and keep the bullets locked up. There is also heavy consequences to pay for playing with a firearm without supervision in my house. <br><br>Sidenote: A few years back, my home was robbed twice in three weeks, both times while I wasn't home. I bought two rottweilers, put up motion detector lights, and built a backstop for a shooting range in my backyard and used it heavily for a few months. The break-ins stoped thorughout the entire neighborhood. It is a known fact the criminals prefer unarmed vicitms.<br><br><br>God bless,<br><br>william
Well, of course as long as they are used, maintained, and stored properly! Anyone who owns one should be extensively trained in all aspects of his/her weapon.<br><br>Of course, we know what the best caliber is already [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/idea.gif" alt="idea" title="idea[/img]
JF2,<br><br>I disagree with those political views which want to eliminate all guns. Guns don't kill people, people do. I've never owned a gun but if I did I'd use it responsibly. Those who do not should not have guns.<br><br><br>Wes
When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Of course, we know what the best caliber is already</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Of course!<br><br>.50 Cal!!! [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/takethat.gif" alt="takethat" title="takethat[/img]<br><br>just kiddin'!<br>[img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/rofl.gif" alt="rofl" title="rofl[/img]
In the midst of your sadness and woe, when you are tormented and afflicted, have comfort! God's will is done.
I must admit it has been a long while since I have shot a .50 cal. I am partial to .45s (Colt-modified, H&K, and SIGs) and .40 Cal. (.38s and .357s are fun as well). Of course, there is the 9mm which is a very effective round as well. I shot a friend's (Secret Service) MP5 last year and he carries a 9mm H&K as well. Of course, it makes sense if you are carrying two weapons to carry them in the same caliber. It really all comes down to shot placement though, no matter what round one would decide upon. Training, training, training is the course of the day for anyone who owns a weapon. Being responsible not only about your weapon and its functionality, but also knowledgeable of when one should and can morally use one are fundamentals in gun ownership as well. And YES, keep them out of reach of children.
Of course, one should always obey the laws of the State the live in as well. I have a friend who lives in Marydel, DE and one half of his property is in Delaware and the other part in Maryland. They have different laws in each state. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/rofl.gif" alt="rofl" title="rofl[/img]
Maybe one day we will have some BETTER national guidelines for gun ownership, including mandatory training and re-training in several facets of weaponry ownership. I won't hold my breath though. And there are pluses and minuses to that issue as well.
I likely have more guns than anybody on this site, but the argument "guns don't kill people, people do" could be and has been switched into favor for casinos and drugs. <br>Personally I am against casinos and drugs, but I must say I am a bit uncomfortable saying "guns don't kill people, people do" to a liberal. Any intelligent liberal (oxymoron? Sorry, couldn't resist) would pounce on that statement.<br><br>Steve
Actually, most guns do not kill people (unless people are clubbed with them), bullets do.. But the only reason a bullet does is the person standing behind the gun and not the gun itself. Drugs in of themselves are not bad either--many are used for healing......et. al., but illegal use of drugs is wrong, but again it is the PERSON using them....et. al. And Casinos exist because people have moved gambling from the allies and backrooms to a prettier "governmental legal" environment. Gambling does not merely exist because of Casinos.<br><br>It is time to stop blaming people's depravity on things and realize that their very nature is the cause of their sin.....and the ongoing results of them.
My point was that a person also say that casinos don't cause people to become addicted, it is the people that go there that do. Or drugs aren't inherently harmful, but the people that abuse them are. <br><br>I personally know many people who go to casinos once or twice a year, and do not become addicted. But the fact is that, pragmatically, the statistics show huge increases in crime, in child abandonment, etc. whenever casinos go up in an area. Not to mention the moral reasons against it.<br><br>Also, the same argument can be given for legalization of recreational drugs.<br><br>It seems that, other than the Libertarians, most people that are for guns are against drugs, and many are against casinos. And that was part of my point....why is that? Why do most people on this site, as I do, favor guns, when it is likely that most would be anti-drug and anti-casinos?<br><br>Steve<br><br>
In reply to:[color:"blue"]My point was that a person also say that casinos don't cause people to become addicted, it is the people that go there that do. Or drugs aren't inherently harmful, but the people that abuse them are.
Again, is it not the depraved human nature that is the problem? People with these dispositions would naturally be drawn towards Casinos. Casinos do exploit the fallen human nature. Casinos are a form of temptation, I will definitely grant this, but the ultimate cause is STILL the person's nature. If Casinos did not exist they would be in "backrooms."
In reply to:[color:"blue"]Why do most people on this site, as I do, favor guns, when it is likely that most would be anti-drug and anti-casinos?
Unlike illegal drugs and gambling, guns are legal and have legitimate uses (hunting, target, et. al.) and not against Scripture.
Steve,<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]I am a bit uncomfortable saying "guns don't kill people, people do" to a liberal. </font><hr></blockquote><p>Since the liberal mindset creates its own vocabulary of politically correct language and is always trying to blame something else for its problems I can see why. However the fact remains that guns are inanimate objects. They can't do anything by themselves.<br><br>Darrell Scott's Testimony Before Congress after he lost his daughter to a gunshot wound in Columbine High School in Colorado. He didn't blame guns... he blamed our self indulgent godless prayerless legislators.<br><br>Your laws ignore our deepest needs <br>Your words are empty air. <br>You've stripped away our heritage. <br>You've outlawed simple prayer. <br><br>Now gunshots fill our classrooms. <br>And precious children die. <br>You seek for answers everywhere. <br>And ask the question "WHY"? <br><br>You regulate restrictive laws. <br>Through legislative creed. <br>Add yet you fail to understand. <br>That God is what we need! <br> <br><br>Wes
When I survey the wondrous cross on which the Prince of Glory died, my richest gain I count but loss and pour contempt on all my pride. - Isaac Watts
Actually, Joe, bullets don't kill people. No one has ever died of bullets. They've died of hemmorhaging (look it up), disruption of internal organs, and other medical stuff too gross to mention. But my point is bullets don't kill people, [color:red]wounds</font color=red> do! [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/thankyou.gif" alt="thankyou" title="thankyou[/img]
In the midst of your sadness and woe, when you are tormented and afflicted, have comfort! God's will is done.
But my point is bullets don't kill people, wounds do!
Okay, I couldn't keep from extending this mediocrity to its final conclusion (at least I hope it will end here! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> ). Wounds don't kill people. This is a known fact. We all have had "wounds" to one degree or another, especially when we were kids. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Thus, the real problem is those Emergency Medical Technicians who are predisposed to eating donuts and don't get to the scene in a timely manner, thus allowing the person with a simple wound to bleed to death. And, then there are those alleged miracle-working doctors who spend all their time watching "ER" rather than saving people who are brought into the hospitals with wounds. So, the guilt rests squarely on the medical profession and therefore the real criminals are the EMT's and the doctors. I think we should boycott these bums and Congress should pass a law against their existence.
jesus_freak2,<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]No one has ever died of bullets</font><hr></blockquote><p> People have died of lead poisoning [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh[/img] and did you notice the (..) after bullets? We could extend the chain reaction of what being shot does to a person a fairly long time (loss of blood, loss of fluids, brain stopping to function, heart failure, et. al.). The point is ALL these are just the RESULT of a depraved person and not the gun itself. A gun is merely a tool. We should not condemn tools just because someone else can not use them correctly!<br><br>Let us do away with guns, because people kill others with them.<br>Let us do away with drugs, because people abuse them.<br>Let us do away with money, because people gamble.<br>Let us do away with cars, because people run others over.<br>Let us do away with skyscrapers, because of 9-11.<br>Let us do away with politicians (well ok, no example is perfect [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/rofl.gif" alt="rofl" title="rofl[/img])
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