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Re: One World Government [Re: Tom] #53818
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It seems secular humanists have been seeking to do away with religious belief for a while.... Here is their vision and philiosophy. But I reject buying into set end time agenda when looking at current events.... Jesus Christ and His true teachings are hated and rejected in every age, we know this........




https://americanhumanist.org/what-is-humanism/manifesto1/

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Humanist Manifesto I


This work has been declared by the AHA board as historic, and is superseded by Humanist Manifesto III

The Manifesto is a product of many minds. It was designed to represent a developing point of view, not a new creed. The individuals whose signatures appear would, had they been writing individual statements, have stated the propositions in differing terms. The importance of the document is that more than thirty men have come to general agreement on matters of final concern and that these men are undoubtedly representative of a large number who are forging a new philosophy out of the materials of the modern world.

– Raymond B. Bragg (1933)

The time has come for widespread recognition of the radical changes in religious beliefs throughout the modern world. The time is past for mere revision of traditional attitudes. Science and economic change have disrupted the old beliefs. Religions the world over are under the necessity of coming to terms with new conditions created by a vastly increased knowledge and experience. In every field of human activity, the vital movement is now in the direction of a candid and explicit humanism. In order that religious humanism may be better understood we, the undersigned, desire to make certain affirmations which we believe the facts of our contemporary life demonstrate.

There is great danger of a final, and we believe fatal, identification of the word religion with doctrines and methods which have lost their significance and which are powerless to solve the problem of human living in the Twentieth Century. Religions have always been means for realizing the highest values of life. Their end has been accomplished through the interpretation of the total environing situation (theology or world view), the sense of values resulting therefrom (goal or ideal), and the technique (cult), established for realizing the satisfactory life. A change in any of these factors results in alteration of the outward forms of religion. This fact explains the changefulness of religions through the centuries. But through all changes religion itself remains constant in its quest for abiding values, an inseparable feature of human life.

Today man’s larger understanding of the universe, his scientific achievements, and deeper appreciation of brotherhood, have created a situation which requires a new statement of the means and purposes of religion. Such a vital, fearless, and frank religion capable of furnishing adequate social goals and personal satisfactions may appear to many people as a complete break with the past. While this age does owe a vast debt to the traditional religions, it is none the less obvious that any religion that can hope to be a synthesizing and dynamic force for today must be shaped for the needs of this age. To establish such a religion is a major necessity of the present. It is a responsibility which rests upon this generation. We therefore affirm the following:

FIRST: Religious humanists regard the universe as self-existing and not created.

SECOND: Humanism believes that man is a part of nature and that he has emerged as a result of a continuous process.

THIRD: Holding an organic view of life, humanists find that the traditional dualism of mind and body must be rejected.

FOURTH: Humanism recognizes that man’s religious culture and civilization, as clearly depicted by anthropology and history, are the product of a gradual development due to his interaction with his natural environment and with his social heritage. The individual born into a particular culture is largely molded by that culture.

FIFTH: Humanism asserts that the nature of the universe depicted by modern science makes unacceptable any supernatural or cosmic guarantees of human values. Obviously humanism does not deny the possibility of realities as yet undiscovered, but it does insist that the way to determine the existence and value of any and all realities is by means of intelligent inquiry and by the assessment of their relations to human needs. Religion must formulate its hopes and plans in the light of the scientific spirit and method.

SIXTH: We are convinced that the time has passed for theism, deism, modernism, and the several varieties of “new thought”.

SEVENTH: Religion consists of those actions, purposes, and experiences which are humanly significant. Nothing human is alien to the religious. It includes labor, art, science, philosophy, love, friendship, recreation–all that is in its degree expressive of intelligently satisfying human living. The distinction between the sacred and the secular can no longer be maintained.

EIGHTH: Religious Humanism considers the complete realization of human personality to be the end of man’s life and seeks its development and fulfillment in the here and now. This is the explanation of the humanist’s social passion.

NINTH: In the place of the old attitudes involved in worship and prayer the humanist finds his religious emotions expressed in a heightened sense of personal life and in a cooperative effort to promote social well-being.

TENTH: It follows that there will be no uniquely religious emotions and attitudes of the kind hitherto associated with belief in the supernatural.

ELEVENTH: Man will learn to face the crises of life in terms of his knowledge of their naturalness and probability. Reasonable and manly attitudes will be fostered by education and supported by custom. We assume that humanism will take the path of social and mental hygiene and discourage sentimental and unreal hopes and wishful thinking.

TWELFTH: Believing that religion must work increasingly for joy in living, religious humanists aim to foster the creative in man and to encourage achievements that add to the satisfactions of life.

THIRTEENTH: Religious humanism maintains that all associations and institutions exist for the fulfillment of human life. The intelligent evaluation, transformation, control, and direction of such associations and institutions with a view to the enhancement of human life is the purpose and program of humanism. Certainly religious institutions, their ritualistic forms, ecclesiastical methods, and communal activities must be reconstituted as rapidly as experience allows, in order to function effectively in the modern world.

FOURTEENTH: The humanists are firmly convinced that existing acquisitive and profit-motivated society has shown itself to be inadequate and that a radical change in methods, controls, and motives must be instituted. A socialized and cooperative economic order must be established to the end that the equitable distribution of the means of life be possible. The goal of humanism is a free and universal society in which people voluntarily and intelligently cooperate for the common good. Humanists demand a shared life in a shared world.

FIFTEENTH AND LAST: We assert that humanism will: (a) affirm life rather than deny it; (b) seek to elicit the possibilities of life, not flee from them; and (c) endeavor to establish the conditions of a satisfactory life for all, not merely for the few. By this positive morale and intention humanism will be guided, and from this perspective and alignment the techniques and efforts of humanism will flow.

So stand the theses of religious humanism. Though we consider the religious forms and ideas of our fathers no longer adequate, the quest for the good life is still the central task for mankind. Man is at last becoming aware that he alone is responsible for the realization of the world of his dreams, that he has within himself the power for its achievement. He must set intelligence and will to the task.

(Signed)

J.A.C. Fagginger Auer—Parkman Professor of Church History and Theology, Harvard University; Professor of Church History, Tufts College.
E. Burdette Backus—Unitarian Minister.
Harry Elmer Barnes—General Editorial Department, ScrippsHoward Newspapers.
L.M. Birkhead—The Liberal Center, Kansas City, Missouri.
Raymond B. Bragg—Secretary, Western Unitarian Conference.
Edwin Arthur Burtt—Professor of Philosophy, Sage School of Philosophy, Cornell University.
Ernest Caldecott—Minister, First Unitarian Church, Los Angeles, California.
A.J. Carlson—Professor of Physiology, University of Chicago.
John Dewey—Columbia University.
Albert C. Dieffenbach—Formerly Editor of The Christian Register.
John H. Dietrich—Minister, First Unitarian Society, Minneapolis.
Bernard Fantus—Professor of Therapeutics, College of Medicine, University of Illinois.
William Floyd—Editor of The Arbitrator, New York City.
F.H. Hankins—Professor of Economics and Sociology, Smith College.
A. Eustace Haydon—Professor of History of Religions, University of Chicago.
Llewellyn Jones—Literary critic and author.
Robert Morss Lovett—Editor, The New Republic; Professor of English, University of Chicago.
Harold P Marley—Minister, The Fellowship of Liberal Religion, Ann Arbor, Michigan.
R. Lester Mondale—Minister, Unitarian Church, Evanston, Illinois.
Charles Francis Potter—Leader and Founder, the First Humanist Society of New York, Inc.
John Herman Randall, Jr.—Department of Philosophy, Columbia University.
Curtis W. Reese—Dean, Abraham Lincoln Center, Chicago.
Oliver L. Reiser—Associate Professor of Philosophy, University of Pittsburgh.
Roy Wood Sellars—Professor of Philosophy, University of Michigan.
Clinton Lee Scott—Minister, Universalist Church, Peoria, Illinois.
Maynard Shipley—President, The Science League of America.
W. Frank Swift—Director, Boston Ethical Society.
V.T. Thayer—Educational Director, Ethical Culture Schools.
Eldred C. Vanderlaan—Leader of the Free Fellowship, Berkeley, California.
Joseph Walker—Attorney, Boston, Massachusetts.
Jacob J. Weinstein—Rabbi; Advisor to Jewish Students, Columbia University.
Frank S.C. Wicks—All Souls Unitarian Church, Indianapolis.
David Rhys Williams—Minister, Unitarian Church, Rochester, New York.
Edwin H. Wilson—Managing Editor, The New Humanist, Chicago, Illinois; Minister, Third Unitarian Church, Chicago, Illinois.

Copyright © 1933 by The New Humanist and 1973 by the American Humanist Association





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Re: One World Government [Re: Anthony C.] #53819
Thu May 11, 2017 5:57 PM
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Thanks, AJ.

The logical foundation for morality in any human culture is its religion, more specifically, their god(s).

Humanism is atheistic. No atheistic society has ever existed in history. Any society built on atheism is inherently unstable, and is therefore set for a quick demise.

Western civilization is built upon Christianity, not Judaism, not Islam... take away Christianity and soon all the trappings that the humanists glorify will be undone.

One cannot be Christian without (the real) Christ, and the regenerative work of His Holy Spirit...

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In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
Re: One World Government [Re: Pilgrim] #53820
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Thanks Pilgrim
That was helpful. I did notice that Jerusalem Blade recommended Kim Riddlebarger's book on Amillenialism.

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Re: One World Government [Re: Tom] #53822
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Re: One World Government [Re: Anthony C.] #53825
Mon May 15, 2017 10:49 AM
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If you see the scriptures as a Futurist regarding prophecy, as I do, than the coming one world government is predicted, to be around around economic and religious world systems!

Re: One World Government [Re: Tom] #53832
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I attended a Roman Catholic mass last Saturday with family (May 13) - I'm no longer Roman Catholic, but attended. To my utter amazement the priest's sermon was on Fatima.

(I have never heard a priest speak about Mary apparitions in mass, nor speak of bible prophecy.) He did both.

He first asked the congregation "How many of you know that today is the anniversary of Our Lady of Fatima?" Followed with "How many of you know that today is the 100th Anniversary of Fatima?"

The priest continued to speak about the story, and the famed 3 secrets of Fatima. These are controversial among some Catholics, but most U.S. Catholics really know nothing, nada, about the controversies, and the many related conspiracy theories among other Catholics, but only know of Fatima, the associated images they've seen over the years... that May 13th is a Mary day.

I'm not a believer in Mary apparitions, nor a Catholic, but I bring this up, as the propaganda and spin is inter-mixing with NOW events, concerning Russia. Whether Russia was or was not properly consecrated to Mary by a valid pope or anti-pope. Heated arguments and divide exists mainly over the ecumenism and modernism which arose with Vatican II (approx 1960?) vs. traditionialists. As more traditionalists see Pope Francis as an anti-Pope, there is a gap for Mary to fill as triumphant (as she claims she will be). But interestingly, Mary also has a growing role in ecumenism as well as among New-Agers.

Also, "Mary" wisely chose a town named Fatima, which is the name of Mohammed's beloved daughter. The Islam faith also reveres Mary.

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I would like to add to this thread that if Ecumenism, 'Coexist' provides an appealing globalist solution for the religion of 'world peace' that the Baha'i faith has potential. It is the only religion espoused by the UN, as it embraces 'all religions'. There are some interesting exposés that see the Baha'i faith as the religion of the "New World Order" including Bahai's themselves. Interestingly Baha'i representatives shared at the inter-faith services at Sandy Hook, some claim was a psy-op.

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More over, I believe U.S. Christian Zionism and U.S. political Zionism has been influential in getting us to the point we are at politically, morally, and spiritually. Among Catholics, with Vatican II, doctrine has changed concerning evangelizing the Jews, and how the RCC views their status.

Meanwhile dispensationalist end-times heresy and fervor grew louder and rampant -- unfortunately with little to counter it, except laughter from late-night tv, and scorn from educated agnostics and young liberals. My conviction is that some wrong eschatology can be Beastly wrong. YouTube was and is a-flame for nearly a decade with laymen 'minstries' 'de-coding' satanic triangles in music videos, while Hollywood and the music industry really does flaunt '666' and laughs. Yes, I do believe there are evil and satanic conspiracies, the Bible tells us there are.

Re: One World Government [Re: Kaylin] #53834
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The Fatima "miracles" were from satan, and it is sad that many are gullible enough to actually believe in them!

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