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I just finished listening to an interesting broadcast on Dr. Albert Mohler’s ‘The Briefing’.
https://albertmohler.com/2018/06/18/briefing-6-18-18/?mc_cid=e870569d53&mc_eid=ab5fb0a16a
The basic topic is Mexican illegal immigration into the USA; especially how it pertains to separating children from their parents.
The question was asked: “Why would Mexican parents risk their children from being separating from them?”
The answer: was equally if not more troubling: “The risk is not as bad as staying in Mexico.”
Thinking about this particular issue, I think the US government is caught between a rock and a hard place. The laws that separate the children from their parents are created as a deterant. Yet to date, the deterrent is not working. No wonder past government administrations seemed content to ignore the problem.

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Is this separation different from separating a child from a parent or parents when the parent or parents are incarcerated in prison for committing a crime. Apparently the problem is that for many illegal immigration is not a crime. Or, we can push it down the road where their will become complaints about separating a child from parent for any parent to be placed in prison, especially a minority one.


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1. John has a good point, which I heard Rush Limbaugh use yesterday on his radio broadcast. Children are separated from a parent(s) when those parents are caught, prosecuted and punished for committing a crime, which they chose to do... So, why the outcry about children being separated from parents of those who choose to try and enter the U.S. illegally, are caught and sent back to where they came from? Note carefully, which the "drive by media" has not and probably won't make known, the only time children of illegal parent(s) are separated from their parents is when the parents CHOOSE to demand asylum in the U.S. Otherwise, they are only separated temporarily, rarely more than an hour or two when the parents are being questioned.

2. The Leftists use this fake news of children automatically being ripped from their mothers/parents to try and make President Trump look like a heartless monster, which is simply another attempt to discredit him and get him removed from office. Why? Because they literally hate the man because he is one who mostly stands upon the U.S. Constitution vs. the Leftists who are determined to throw out the U.S. Constitution and the Democratic Republic; a free society and bring in Socialism/Communism. The two are antithetical and the Leftists will stop at nothing to accomplish their goal(s).

3. This policy of separating children and parents of those trying to enter the U.S. illegally is not something Donald Trump has done by executive order or some other personal mandate. The practice is Federal Law which has been on the books and implemented since 1997. The law was enforced under the Obama and Bush administrations but why is it only being attacked now? Nothing was ever even whispered when Obama was president. scratchchin

4. Finally, the outcry on the Left and some on the Right, who have been lied to about what is really happening because they listen to the mainstreet media and it's fake new and outright lies, is designed also to rid the country of its current immigration laws and bring in open borders. This has always been the Leftists' position and even now protecting illegal aliens by refusing to cooperate with federal immigration officers. Why? Because the Leftists have always capitalized on immigrants, even those who come to the U.S. legally by creating social programs. Why? Because they make the immigrants dependent upon the government by giving them whatever they need, which in many cases far exceeds what Americans get when in need. And it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that when you are given things for free you become not only dependent upon the giver but the things and thus you will VOTE for the giver(s) in order to keep the giving coming your way.


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Interesting, because what I heard is previous governments were not seperating children from parents.

I also heard that the main reason Mexican parents are willing to take the risk from being seperated from their children is the alternative is worse.

Are these two aspects "fake news"?

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1. The previous administrations ignored, for the most part, the LAW which Congress enacted and the President signed. Trump and the Immigration Dept is simply enforcing the LAW for ILLEGALS who are asking for asylum. Those who do most assuredly have been advised and coached to do that. Does anyone really think that these foreigners know American immigration policy/law? [Linked Image]

2. The vast majority of the immigrants who try and cross the U.S. Border are not in any danger in their home countries. Wanting an alleged "better lifestyle" is hardly synonymous with being threatened with imprisonment and/or death by a government.

Sooooo, yes the so-called "news" that comes through the Leftist media, which is an arm of the Democratic Party is anything but true and reliable. Unfortunately, in other countries that is all people are exposed to. In this country, it is a conscious choice of people to get news from the mainstreet media and to not listen to or watch any of the few conservative news outlets, e.g., Fox News, CRTV, Rush Limbaugh, et al.


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"Sad thing is, it’s you and me that are paying the South American human smugglers through U.S. taxpayer funds. Laundered through the immigration business bagmen at U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, and/or, U.S. Catholic Charities, or Southwest Key Programs Inc; or Baptist Child and Family Services Emergency Management Division (BCFS-EMD), just to name a few."

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so far 'illegals' have been rewarded for placing their children in a risky situation.....maybe they should just build the wall already....

DHS Report https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/02/15...ts-are-flooding-border-because-catch-and

"Legal loopholes are exploited by minors, family units, and human smugglers, and are a magnet for illegal immigration

These legal loopholes lead to “catch and release” policies that act as a “pull factor” for increased future illegal immigration.
This has incited smugglers to place children into the hands of adult strangers so they can pose as families and be released from immigration custody after crossing the border, creating another safety issue for these children.

These loopholes create a pull factor that invites more illegal immigration and encourages parents to pay and entrust their children to criminal organizations that will smuggle them in—often while abusing and molesting those children along the way.

Thousands of these unaccompanied children—particularly young teenage girls—are subjected to sexual abuse by smugglers, criminals, and even government officials along their journey to the United States. Many also never make it to the United States, instead pressed into service at brothels and bars in Mexico and Guatemala.
The influx of unaccompanied alien minors also creates recruiting opportunities for brutal gangs such as MS-13"

Does zero tolerance make matters better? Not sure it can get much worse than its been....


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