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The Election in Canada #55698
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The Election in Canada
As most probably know already, the Federal election in Canada is October 21st.
As a Christian I definitely would not vote for a left leaning party. Right off this bat means I will not be voting Liberal, NDP or the Green Party. That leaves either the Conservative Party, or the Peopleís Party of Canada.
Unfortunately, neither of them will stand up for many of the issues that should be important to Christians. In Canada for example, for a party to make an issue against the LBGQT rights, or against abortion, is to concede the election. (I think both leaders say they personally hold conservative beliefs on the subjects, but they will not be opening these topics up as a party platform.)
I think the Peopleís Party is probably the more conservative of the two parties on the right. However, as many believe, in a close election like this with Conservatives and Liberals running neck and neck in the polls, voting the Peopleís Party, is splitting the rightís vote.
I can tell you that part of me wants to vote for the Peopleís Party, but I think in such a close election, where I do not want the Liberals to get re-elected, I think I need to vote for the Conservative party, regardless of the fact I donít have very much confidence in their leader.

Any thoughts on this matter, before I cast my vote would be appreciated.

Tom

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Tough decision, to be sure. IF the Conservative Party won the election, would they oppose the LBGTQ... (add you own letters here), abortion, assisted suicide, etc.? IF not, then I would cast my vote for the People's Party of Canada. In elections, I vote my conscience on the basis of biblical principle. Christians need to remember that they are not choosing a pastor, but in nearly every case, a pagan who is most qualified for the office and reasonably "moral" outwardly.


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Re: The Election in Canada [Re: Tom] #55701
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I thought I would let you know something else that is important about the election, that a friend of mine mentioned. He says even if Conservative win and the election is close, it looks like both the NDP and the Liberals will join together to form a coalition government.
https://www.canadaproud.org/stopthe...pLXYACSBZ1aDsWi-TaCqOtGEAWgySH55odLe-v1c

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Unfortunately, none of the parties have the nerve to touch those issues.
To do so, would be to concede the election.
Those issues are already been signed into law and as I said to open them as an election platform, would be to concede defeat.
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Originally Posted by Tom
Unfortunately, none of the parties have the nerve to touch those issues.
To do so, would be to concede the election.

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IF the Conservative Party won the election, would they oppose...?

Many so-called Republicans [aka: RINOs] play politics the same way here. They present themselves as 'fiscally conservative but socially liberal' with the inane idea that they will appeal to everybody across the political spectrum. The 'Progressive Democrats' want nothing to do with anything conservative ideas or values, i.e. those which are inline with the U.S. Constitution (as it was written). Their goal is to destroy and remove the Constitution and implement Communistic Socialism. Methinks that even your NDP would consider them Radical Leftists. eek


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I thought I was clear in answering your question that no party, is even willing to make it a policy that they would run on. That includes the party that is considered the furthest right in Canada, the PPC.
I am aware of the left's wanting to destroy the US Constitution, or at least interpret as a living document, rather than how it was originally intended. I believe Communist Socialism is the Left's agenda, in both the USA and Canada. I also read recently in England on the subject of LBGQT, a judge making a ruling that the Bible is an immoral book. I believe he even quoted an OT passage.

By the way, all the votes have not come in yet, but it looks like the Liberals have a minority government in Canada.
In Canada, it appears that the biggest hot button issue seems to be the environment. It also appears that, many conservative Christians that can't stand the left, or for that matter the Liberals, voted for the Liberals anyway, because they are convinced of the left's message concerning the environment and they believe it more important than even other things that Christians are facing. I say that with a bit of a heavy heart, but I think it is accurate. Concerning the Conservatives, many say that they have almost no plans on the environment and are considered backwards and dangerous.

Tom

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One more try... some so-called conservatives here refuse to RUN on social issues. They avoid them like the plague because they are convinced they would never get elected. However, occasionally one or two, when elected and serving in office, they do vote for conservative social issues, e.g., the "Life at Conception Act" (anti-abortion), opposing all alleged gun control bills, rejecting the totally false notion of man-made Climate Change, etc.

Yes, the biggest unscientific hoax in history; man-made climate change, aka: gobal warming, et al, is very much on the forefront here too. Some are advocating the total banning of all transportation that uses fossil fuels... no planes, no trains, no ships, trucks, and no cows because their flatulence contain methane gas which they claim is destroying the atmosphere. The truth is, fluctuations in climate is a natural (God controlled) phenomena which has existed throughout recorded history. It is impossible for man to destroy the atmosphere even if he tried. This hoax has from the beginning been about gaining power, control and money... billions upon billions of $$$$. igiveup


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Re: The Election in Canada [Re: Pilgrim] #55711
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I believe both the Conservative and the PPC candidates said they are personally against abortion and are for traditional family values. Yet they said the party line like you said is not something they run on.
One question however, if one of them had been elected, yet tried to change abortion laws etc... anyway. Would that not have been a lie? Something that others could try to get him out of office for?

I agree with you on the climate change thing. However it appears that the young Swedish girl named Greta (you have probably seen her on the news) message is being swallowed hook line and sinker.
It is even deviding the Christian community.
So much so in fact, that anyone who denies what she said is considered a moron.

Tom


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