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I just received an e-mail showing an e-mail debate between James White & Mark D. Carpenter of Outside the Camp.
It is fairly lengthy, so if anyone is interested in reading it, please let me know and I will e-mail it to you.

The only way I will post it here is if either Pilgrim or one of the monitors requests it.

Tom

I have just got two books entitled :The Roman Catholic Controversy and The King James Only Controversy both written by James R White.

Is this the same man as Tom mentioned and are those two books any good ?

Mark,
He's one of those despised Reformed Baptists, and the Lord is using him mightily! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
I have not read his books, but have heard him speak at a Founders Conference and listened to his programs and he is a very able defender of the truth! You might even like him! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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......whats the debate about btw ?

Is White in Carpenters "Hall of Shame" now <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Mark

Yes it is the same person.
What I like about James White is he doesn't hold any punches. However he does so in a fair manner, using Scripture to back up what he says.
I have even heard a broadcast of him where he was in Salt Lake City evangelizing Mormons. When a so called Christian was spreading hateful lies about the Mormons, he came up to the person and told him that what they said was not true.

What was really interesting about that was that Mormons came up to James and thanked him. He was then able to tell these Mormons that he wasn't a Mormon; in fact he was a Christian.
You might be interested in hearing one of his many debates.
www.aomin.org

Tom

pls e-mail me a copy by using the link in my Personal Profile.

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thanks

[color:"blue"]Vince, I removed your e-mail address as it isn't wise to display it publicly. In its place, I substituted a link to your Personal Profile, where there is a link to e-mail you. This is a new feature which was announced here: Email User added.[/color] - Pilgrim

Thanks Tom.

I have just begun his KJ Only Controversy and I find his presentation , style and manner quite refreshing <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Vince

Recently, James White saw either this thread or the one I posted on another board. He has brought this topic up in more detale on his site.
aomin.org

Tom

Mark

Like I told Vince, James White saw either this thread, or one I started at another forum and he talked about it in more detale on his own site. aomin.org

Tom

Now there you go spilling the beans Susan. And the sad thing is I wanted to tell him! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />





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Hey Tom

You can e-mail it to me ; I will message you privately with my e-mail
addy. thanks ahead of time <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Tom,

Just wondering why would anyone be interested in a debate with someone like Mark Carpenter. This is the same guy who writes "In the historical realm, we had to disendorse John Calvin. And we mean it when we say that we had to. When we find out that someone whom we endorsed (either recommended their ministries or quoted them favorably) actually was/is unregenerate, we must tell and warn our readers. It makes no difference how famous or well-liked or revered as a "father of the faith" these people were/are. We are no respecter of persons".
This fellow has added many other theological giants to his so-called "HETERODOXY HALL OF SHAME". I find it hard to take him seriously.

in Christ,
Carlos

Carlos

Unfortunately Mark D. Carpenter has garnered quite a following. People like James White have debated people of various un-Christian back grounds, so I don't see how Carpenter is any different.

I am a little tossed on this one however, if more people like White debate him, it may just make his name known even more than it is now.
Tom

Could you supply your source information, please? I would like to know what the statistics are that warranted you to make this remark. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

In His Grace,

Just finished White's KJOnly controversy and I found it very helpful and would recommend it to those dealing with this topic. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Tom, I just visited Whites site and have learnt of a certain Mac Swift and his website. Ever heard of him ?
Check it out.........I think its <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/puke.gif" alt="" />

Mark

No I haven't heard of Mac Swift, should I have? Is there are certain article that you can refer me to find out more?

Tom

Tom, if you visit Mr Whites site, scroll half way down in the "Apologetic Blog" and you will see a reference to a website "vesselofhounor" in which Swift defends Hunts "What love is this". I thought this might be of interest to you as a "fan" of White.<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Mark

I am sorry you are going to have to be more specific, I couldn't find what you asked me to look at.
What is the heading, date etc?

Tom

Here is the website Tom.

http://www.vesselofhonour.com/

Mark

I agree with you about this character. But I will say that at least he admits that CH Spurgeon was a Calvinist.

Tom

Mark

Just in case you are interested, I am involved in a discussion with this character at the following URL.
http://www.vesselofhonour.com/archives/000279.php

Tom

That Mac Swift sure is arrogant in his unbelief Tom. Dont spend too much time on the man.(Matthew 7:6)

Mark

Have you been following the discussion?

Tom