grace2U said:
Mark 1:4-5, Matt 28:19, Acts 2:38 and 8:37.


John came baptizing in the wilderness and preaching the baptism of repentance for forgiveness of sins. All the country of Judea and all those of Jerusalem went out to him. They were baptized by him in the Jordan river, confessing their sins. (Mark 1:4-5)

Steve got to disagree with you concerning the first verse there. It is clear that John's baptism was of the older economy and not of the New Covenant. If it had been then Paul wouldn't have baptized those disciples in Ephesus. For in the New Covenant we get the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

It happened that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul, having passed through the upper country, came to Ephesus, and found certain disciples. He said to them, "Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?" They said to him, "No, we haven't even heard that there is a Holy Spirit." He said, "Into what then were you baptized?" They said, "Into John's baptism." Paul said, "John indeed baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe in the one who would come after him, that is, in Jesus." When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. When Paul had laid his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke with other languages and prophesied. They were about twelve men in all. (Acts 19:1-7)

Again I believe the stronger arguement (although it has yet to convince William or the others <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" />) is from Matthew 28:19 where we make disiciples and then baptize them. As the rest of those verses demonstrate.

Just my <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/my2cents.gif" alt="" /> you all go on now with your discussion its mighty interesting.