Ok, I'm 16, never been through seminary or anything, and barely understand all the pages here talking about the tongues. I do agree they're gone, but I don't have a very strong reason for it. However, I started a thread asking non-Charismatics what they'd do if a Charismatic started speaking in tongues during public, group prayer or if they tried to annoint somebody, and of course that spawned off a new thread about the Theology of Tongues. I stated my position and then I got a response that was way over my head. I don't want someone to just give me a response (well, actually I do, but that wouldn't teach me much), but I would some links to some info responding to the specific accusations that tongues are still alive.

I made the accusation that I Cor 13 referred to the tongues going away at the completion of the Bible (since it really does make sense; same time basically), and I"m not sure if I'm right about that or not, but that's what I said.

Here it is. Help me out if you know something about any of the specifics. Thanks!

Quote
Wookiee I completely disagree with you about "Perfection" coming meaning the completion of the text that makes up the Bible.

If ther Bible was "Perfection" then we would not be having this conversation because all the meanings in the Bible would be perfectly clear, regardless of the language it is written in.
Only in about 300 AD is there even the first attempt at compiling the Bible into one book. Even as late as Martin Luther there were people (Luther included) who argued against some books inclusion in the Bible (the book of James in Luther's case) And even today there is debate about the inclusion of some verses in the Bible. For something that would have Paul saying that when it comes understanding would be complete.
1 Corinthians 13:9-13 (The Message)
We know only a portion of the truth, and what we say about God is always incomplete. But when the Complete arrives, our incompletes will be canceled.
When I was an infant at my mother's breast, I gurgled and cooed like any infant. When I grew up, I left those infant ways for good. We don't yet see things clearly. We're squinting in a fog, peering through a mist. But it won't be long before the weather clears and the sun shines bright! We'll see it all then, see it all as clearly as God sees us, knowing him directly just as he knows us!
But for right now, until that completeness, we have three things to do to lead us toward that consummation: Trust steadily in God, hope unswervingly, love extravagantly. And the best of the three is love.
What we say and know about God is STILL incomplete. We still don't see things clearly, especially nowhere as near as clearly as God sees us and knows us. Can any person on this earth know God as God knows us?
No. We don't see things clearly, nor do we know God as near as intimately as He knows us.
Now if the completion of the text which makes up the Bible was what Paul was refering to when he was talking about Completion (or Perfection depending on which version of the Bible you are using) then I would know God as intimately as He know Me, and I would see all thing clearly. There fore the Completion can only be Christ's Second Coming.

Secondly there are record of Iraneous talking in tongues And Iraneous was not born yet in 100AD. and John Wesley notes that the spiritual gifts were in decline in use after Constantine's time....roughly 337AD onwards. Wesley comments that the decline in their use as being a miserable mistake, made by Christians as the fervour of Christian's declined and they becamoe more cold hearted and Christianity became a state religion.
(Wesley believed that the gifts of the Holy Spirit were not only important but also were active during the 18th century Evangelical Revival.)

Secondly Paul lists the gift of Tongues right in the middle of two things which he states will only cease when Completion comes (I have just stated that I understand that Completion can only be defined as Christ's Second Coming and not the completion of the text making up the Bible) now with that grouping we can safely assume that Tongues will end the same time Prophecy and Knowledge. Now if Christ has not yet had His Second Coming, then Prophecy and Knowledge haven't ceased yet and neither has Tongues.

If you can cite any Biblical evidence for the cessation of the Gift of Tongues (and Prophecy and Knowledge for that matter) other than that passage, which the only time frame given is Christ's Second Coming, then please let me know about it.

Do I beleive that there are Charismatics out there who do not have the gift of Tongues like they claim to? Most certainly. Same as there are people out there who claim to be saved but at the end of the day weren't really Christian.
Do I beleive that there are Charismatics out there who misuse/abuse/falsify the gift of tongues? Most certainly. And I beleive they will answer to God for their actions.
BUT I do beleive that the Gifts of Tongues, Prophecy and Knowledge are alive and functioning in the Church today.

http://www.thexpower.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3576
It's at the end or at least near the end.

BTW, if anyone wants to join TheXPower (primarily Christian teen forum), that'd be awesome. If you really feel passionate about discussing/debating tongues, I'd suggest that. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />

I didn't pick the fight, I just can't back down. A lot more charismatics might be made if tongues are proved still active today.

Romans 8:29 (in Arminian): For whom He foreknew, He also [foreknew] to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.