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Just a couple of comments about two or three of the comments from your friend you posted up above.
First, your friend can stick his fingers in his ears and repeat 1 Corinthians 14 over and over again all he wants, but the fact remains that Church history stands opposed to him with regards to the manifestation of tongues as a practice in worship services. Granted, there were cultic groups and unorthodox Christian groups that practice ecstatic speech, but that was not the gift of tongues, nor would your friend wish to appeal to these groups as support for his position.
Second, I do not trust Wesley as an authority on the issues of gifts. Wesley's theology was riddled with perfectionism, the belief that a believer can acheive absolute sinlessness here in this earthly life. His appeal to the notion of spiritual gifts is born more out of a desire for Christians to obtain a higher spiritual plain of existence so as to acheive perfection, rather than commenting upon something that was commonplace among the experience of Christians during his day. What your friend needs to demonstrate is that tongues was practiced among many common, denominational congregations as a normal thing. Where in church history were tongues practiced as a means of worship among orthodox, Bible-believing Christians? Appealing to a handful of spurious citations from questionable sources does not establish it as a norm for God's people for today.
Fred
"Ah, sitting - the great leveler of men. From the mightest of pharaohs to the lowest of peasants, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" M. Burns
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