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Ted said: Perhaps that is what is wrong with modern evangelism: we are mostly grace and just a little bit sin. Ted, Don't you find that to be rather ironic? I mean, why would anyone even need "grace" if there was no "sin"? For Scripture says, "But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:" (Rom 5:20) It is virtually impossible to comprehend to any degree the grace of God without first comprehending to a large measure the nature and effects of sin. One cannot appreciate the crucifixion unless one first knows the reason for the crucifixion. One cannot begin to appreciate the love of God until one has come to know the depth of sin that is in their own heart. "Modern evangelism" and so many other organizations, denominations, churches, etc., use words found in the Bible but without knowing or denying what those words actually mean according to the Bible. In most instances, they choose words which will bring the best results to their goal. The bottom line is that to "succeed" you need to use psychology, emotional appeal and clever techniques. Sounds like Madison Avenue to me!  Charles Finney, of course, revolutionized the method of evangelism by first rejectining the doctrines that biblical evangelism was founded upon. His methodology, which is that embraced and used by probably 90% of the church today, even by those who claim to be "Reformed/Calvinist", is founded upon semi-Pelagian doctrine. Secondly, I'm wondering if you might comment on something you quoted from the Pastor's letter: "The Bible teaches that all of us are sinners, and though God always loves us, He hates our sin and calls us to repentance and holiness. . . ."
I'm particularly interested in your thoughts on the highlighted portion; i.e. God loves everyone always, but hates sin.  In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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A church reaches out to the world around them
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PaulRH
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:16 PM
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Pilgrim
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Fri Feb 04, 2005 11:33 PM
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Henry
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PaulRH
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:41 PM
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Reformation Monk
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:53 PM
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Pilgrim
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:49 PM
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janean
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Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:49 PM
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CovenantInBlood
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:17 PM
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Like my teenage son says
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PaulRH
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:24 PM
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Re: Like my teenage son says
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CovenantInBlood
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:34 PM
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I tried.
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PaulRH
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:36 PM
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Re: I tried.
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Anonymous
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:11 PM
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Yep. John 8
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PaulRH
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:30 PM
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Re: Yep. John 8
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Anonymous
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:06 PM
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After further review the play stands
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:56 AM
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Re: After further review the play stands
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CovenantInBlood
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:31 AM
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Re: After further review the play stands
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Tom
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:09 AM
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Re: After further review the play stands
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:53 AM
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Re: I tried.
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CovenantInBlood
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:32 PM
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Re: A church reaches out to the world around them
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Anonymous
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:35 PM
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Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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PaulRH
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Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:53 PM
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Re: Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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Anonymous
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:38 AM
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Re: Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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Reformation Monk
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:19 AM
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Re: Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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Anonymous
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:40 AM
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Re: Ted thanks for actually engaging the letter.
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Pilgrim
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Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:32 PM
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Nice softball, Pilgrim . . . . . .
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Anonymous
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:10 AM
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Re: Nice softball, Pilgrim . . . . . .
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J_Edwards
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:01 AM
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Re: Your Questions, J Edwards
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Anonymous
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:59 PM
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Re: Your Questions, J Edwards
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J_Edwards
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:54 PM
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Re: Your Questions, J Edwards
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:15 AM
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I believe as you believe Ted
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 4:29 AM
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Re: I believe as you believe Ted
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CovenantInBlood
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:39 AM
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:36 AM
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J_Edwards
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:29 PM
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:30 PM
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:36 PM
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Sorry, my fault
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:41 PM
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J_Edwards
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:10 PM
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:42 PM
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J_Edwards
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:17 PM
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:33 PM
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Re: I believe as you believe Ted
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CovenantInBlood
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:48 PM
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You might consider this as my response re worship
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:50 AM
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Re: You might consider this as my response re worship
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:30 PM
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Re: You might consider this as my response re wors
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:27 PM
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Re: You might consider this as my response re wors
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:33 PM
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Re: You might consider this as my response re worship
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CovenantInBlood
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:52 PM
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Re: the Sufficiency of God and His Word
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:50 AM
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Re: the Sufficiency of God and His Word
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:39 AM
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Re: I believe as you believe Ted
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Anonymous
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:24 PM
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Re: I believe as you believe Ted
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PaulRH
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 1:21 PM
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J_Edwards
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 10:26 PM
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Pilgrim
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:03 PM
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Reformation Monk
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Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:26 AM
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Re: Nice softball, Pilgrim . . . . . .
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:41 PM
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