The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum Question for my credo friends

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]For the most part this is true (for Baptists), except that Baptists do attempt to sneak a child back into "part" of the covenant by baby dedications; they ask for God's blessings upon the child, the church's care, and the parent's obedience to raise the child in the nurture of the Lord.... I guess, the theory of non-contradiction is not used here </font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>I guess I don't see why you think this is such a problem. When Paul writes in Corinthians 7 that the children of a non-believing/believing marriage are sanctified because of the believer, I don't take that to mean that there is an actual conformity to Christlikeness going on. It simply means that the children will be blessed by the relationship they have with the believing parent.<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Most (not all) paedos on the other hand, while they do not "yet" see a holy efficacious work done in the hearts of their children, do hold to a historical continuity between the Old and New Testaments (a more correct hermeneutic) that allows their children, as the Scriptures reveal, to be a part of "certain parts" of the covenant (i.e. they cannot be a part of efficacious grace because they are not yet saved, et.al., thus I say "certain parts"), though as demonstrated in Scripture again, "some" may be determined as lost later. Compare all that were circumcised in Israel with "any" that were lost. What child at 8 days old confessed anything?</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>That is the hub of the rub, as it were. You have to demonstrate that your particular hermenuetic IS the correct one. I have yet to be compelled to believe that it is. <br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Thus, the issue comes down to he definition here of what is a covenant? Is it the Baptist way: New Covenant is "only" for those whose hearts have been changed by the work of the spirit and who have been justified by the death of Christ on the cross (yet we sneak our children in the back door of the covenant for some of its blessings) or the biblical way: And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you....</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>Where are you getting this sneaking the children in the back door stuff? Paedoes have the same dilemma on their hands as well, because they want to be able to have an excuse to explain why avbaptised infant forfeits the New Covenant when they become an unbelieving adult. Hebrews if pretty clear that the New Covenant in only for those who in Christ. <br><br>Fred<br><br>