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Pilgrim said:
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speratus said:
If it is improper to speak of Jesus Christ as the eternal, impeccable, and immutable Son of God by whom all things were created, why does Heb. 13:8 say, "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever"?
It is not improper to speak such, for as you rightly wrote, "SON OF GOD"..... the second person of the Trinity; God of very God. Did you not read what I wrote? Divine attributes belong to the divine nature of Christ, Who consists of 2 natures. You consistently contradict and deny historic Christianity which embraces that which is so clearly expressed in the Creed of Chalcedon concerning the 2 natures of Christ. Jesus Christ did NOT create the worlds for He did not exist until c. 3 B.C. The SON OF GOD is eternal and it is HE Who created all things and Who TOOK UPON HIMSELF human flesh (Jh 1:14) and BECAME Jesus of Nazareth. The Son of God did not hunger, thirst, suffer, anguish in prayer, etc.. the HUMAN NATURE of Christ experienced these things in the ONE PERSON. Get it? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/igiveup.gif" alt="" />

Let me see if I follow you. Son of God: Eternally begotten of the Father; immutable and impeccable? Son of Man: Created in time by the Son of God; mutable, and peccable? Jesus Christ: One person having two personalities?

Did the Son of Man obtain his sinless yet peccable personality from an immaculate, yet peccable and mutable, Mary?

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speratus queries:
If the saints were granted Impeccability through the merits of Christ, why was Christ granted Impeccability? It's a poor Savior who needs a Savior.
Christ needed no Saviour!! Where in the world did you ever come up with that?? <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/scratch1.gif" alt="" />

From you: "The Lord Christ, His human nature, was granted impeccability due to His perfect obedience to the law of God having fulfilled all things which the first Adam failed to do." If Christ needed to earn His Impeccability through a covenant of works, He was His own Savior.

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Pilgrm asks Have you no understanding of what the purpose of God was in sending His only begotten Son into the world, taking upon human flesh?

So the Son of Man could earn mutation into Impecability? Where's that in scripture?