Originally Posted by hdbdan
Mr. Cooke stated that MLJ believed that the sign gifts were needed for revival to take place. I've been reading MLJ for years including his treatments of the baptism with the Holy Ghost and revival in his various preaching series. I don't recall him ever stating or even implying that the sign gifts were "needed" for a revival but rather that they were just always possible in the Christian life.
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For the benefit of others, the article referred to is found here: Tongues - Nonsense and Martyn Lloyd-Jones

And the exact quote from that article which you take exception to is:

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It is always worthwhile to examine a man’s premise as well as his conclusion. Dr. Lloyd-Jones was dissatisfied with the state of the modem church. He believed that the church needed “revival.” Most serious believers and students of the Word of God would concur with that assessment. But he also believed that the sign-gifts are needed in the church if such a revival is to take place.
The quote where Mr. Cooke alleges that Lloyd-Jones said that the sign gifts were needed in the church if revival was to take place has not been discussed here before. What has been discussed here, however, is Lloyd-Jones' non-cessationist view. The problem always comes down to what Scripture teaches and not what experience of alleged events in history have occurred. The biblical arguments from non-cessationists has always been more than weak, in my view. And the alleged experiences of others rarely has any credibility, either in the reporting of it or in trying to make a connection between it and the biblical ecstatic gifts of the Spirit.

Anyway... I am not sure what Ronald Cooke read of Lloyd-Jones where this statement was made. Or, perhaps Mr. Cooke heard Lloyd-Jones say this at a conference, in a class he attended or in a sermon or even in a personal conversation?? What I can do for you is to provide contact information where you could e-mail or write Dr. Cooke and ask him for the source of that statement. grin

Here ya go: Breckbill Bible College. There are two links on the left at the bottom of the navigation menu for contacting him.


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