Wes

You get no argument from me about women not being able to fulfill what is in verse 12.
My understanding is that the Greek can be translated either "wives" or "women" depending on context.
The people at the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood official position is that the context does show "women" and that is why they believe it is ok for women to be "deacons". They do this because they don't see the "office of deacon" as an authority position.

However, in my opinion the contexts of the verses do not warrant their understanding. However that said, there are a lot of respectable theologians and pastors that disagree with me on that.

I am glad we agree with each other on this topic [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile[/img]

Tom