Oh I see you determined the translation, ahh well why didn't you say so in the first place. Well don't worry you've gotten other things wrong besides this, at least your consistent.<br><br>My insistence on getting technical comes from your insistence on making up definitions on the fly. <br><br>God gives us those commands because we still carry our flesh around until our final redemption. So as we are being sanctified we must constantly put to death our "old man" and those are our reminders not because we can lose our salvation. Again if you think those are something we do to keep it then you are referring to a works based salvation no matter how you protest to the contrary.