Josh,<br>I don't know if you are familiar with John MacArthur, but I just visited his site and saw that he has recently done a whole series on eternal security called The Grip of God. It is on the archives page, so after tomorrow they will be replaced by the newer broadcasts each day. <br><br> If you want to hear the whole series, you will need to listen to the first one dated 6/17/02 before it is taken off the day after tomorrow. John MacArthur is an excellent teacher. When I was a new Christian, before I ever went to church, I would listen to his program and learn so much from him. His end times views are not the same as most reformed teachers though, but that shouldn't bother you since you aren't reformed.[Linked Image] <br>Susan