Romans 8:29 (in Arminian): For whom He foreknew, He also [foreknew] to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Hi, I have not read the entire thread as yet but I thought you shuold know that "tongues" are normal foreign languages not the charismaniac gibberish those deluded folk babble in.
As for their cessation.....some years ago I was in a nut house (mental hospital) and this uneducated English woman just started speaking German . She knew not what she said nor could she remember.
Don't know if you're still involved in that debate. I usually keep away from discussion of the charismatic gifts because, coming from a Pentecostal background, I'm weak defending cessationism against so many years of experience with devoted believers who thought they had the gift of tongues or prophecy or whatever. I once thought I had the gift of tongues, but I've since realized it was vain imagination.
At any rate, so far as the text in I Cor. 13 is concerned, if the meaning of "perfect" is the Second Coming or heaven or something along those lines, what does Paul mean when he says that "faith, hope, love, abide these three" (v. 13)? Will we yet have need of faith and hope when we stand before God eternally in His Presence? Faith and hope have no place where there is sight and surety.
Kyle
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified.
