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#4617 Fri Aug 15, 2003 6:09 PM
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This section was so good and quite amusing: <br><blockquote>...there is no doctrine[god's sovereingty] more hated by worldlings, no truth of which they have made such a foot-ball, as the great, stupendous, but yet most certain doctrine of the Sovereignty of the infinite Jehovah. Men will allow God to be everywhere except on his throne. They will allow him to be in his workshop to fashion worlds and to make stars. They will allow him to be in his almonry to dispense his alms and bestow his bounties. They will allow him to sustain the earth and bear up the pillars thereof, or light the lamps of heaven, or rule the waves of the ever-moving ocean; but when God ascends his throne, his creatures then gnash their teeth; and when we proclaim an enthroned God, and his right to do as he wills with his own, to dispose of his creatures as he thinks well, without consulting them in the matter, then it is that we are hissed and execrated, and then it is that men turn a deaf ear to us, for God on his throne is not the God they love. They love him anywhere better than they do when he sits with his sceptre in his hand and his crown upon his head. But it is God upon the throne that we love to preach. It is God upon his throne whom we trust. It is God upon his throne of whom we have been singing this morning; and it is God upon his throne of whom we shall speak in this discourse. I shall dwell only, however, upon one portion of God's Sovereignty, and that is God's Sovereignty in the distribution of his gifts. In this respect I believe he has a right to do as he wills with his own, and that he exercises that right." (Spurgeon from the sermon "Divine Sovereignty" ) </blockquote><br><br><br>in Christ,<br>Carlos<br><br>


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Carlos,<br><br>Old Spurgeon did have a way with words, didn't he? [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh[/img] They didn't call him the "Prince of Preachers" for no good reason, that's for sure. What he said can be reduced to saying that men will gladly, albeit some reluctantly, confess in regard to God's sovereignty His power, but will conveniently and adamantly deny His authority. J.I. Packer wrote a little booklet which just so happens to be on The Highway (where else? [Linked Image] ) that really unfolds this entire erroneous mentality. It can be found by clicking here: Freedom and Authority.<br><br>In His Grace,


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Pilgirm,<br><br>He sure a gift for putting words together [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile[/img]. I will surely look at Packer's article. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/thanks.gif" alt="thanks" title="thanks[/img]<br><br><br>in Christ,<br>Carlos


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Pilgrim,<br><br>Here's another one that I was reminiscing on when I was listening to Hank Hanegraff's comments.<br>Spurgeon writes :<br><blockquote><br>And now, having made these remarks upon terms used, we must observe that there is nothing upon which men need to be more instructed than upon the question of what Calvinism really is. The most infamous allegations have been brought against us, and sometime, I must fear, by men who knew them to be utterly untrue; and, to this day, there are many of our opponents, who, when they run short of matter, invent and make for themselves a man of straw, call that [Calvninsim], and then shoot all their arrows at it. We are not come here to defend your man of straw—shoot at it or burn it as you will, and, if it suit your convenience, still oppose doctrines which were never taught, and rail at fictions which, save in your own brain, were never in existence. We come here to state what our views really are, and we trust that any who do not agree with us will do us the justice of not misrepresenting us. If they can disprove our doctrines, let them state them fairly and then overthrow them, but why should they first caricature our opinions and then afterwards attempt to put them down?</blockquote><br><br><br>In His grace,<br><br>


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