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#56958 Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:36 PM
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PPC (Peoples Party of Canada) leader recently said during a party rally.
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When tyranny becomes law, revolution becomes our duty!
Of course he is referring to things like mandatory vaccine passports and other things along those line.
I agree with him; yet the way I am hearing a lot of people I know actually believe that this tyranny is for our own good.
They do not think of it as tyranny of course.
They believe Prime Minister Trudeau's lies calling the Covid variants that are present are the fault of those who have not been vaccinated.
When Trudeau talks about these issues, he does so with anger in his voice.
Saying things like he has absolutely no tolerance for people in the health profession who are not vaccinated!
In the province I live in, as of September 13th Vaccine Passports are absolutely mandatory. There no exceptions to this, even those who have allergies to ingredients in the vaccinations are not except.
In another province, their chief medical officer stated that the vaccine is safe for even those who believe they have allergies to ingredients in the vaccine.
I could go on and on, about these kind of things.
They are tyranny pure and simple!
Unfortunately, I would not be surprised to hear PPC leader got himself arrested for saying that.
Too many people in Canada believe the lies!

I was talking to a good friend of mine about this and
he believes that more than 50 percent of the people in Canada believe in
some sort of a police state for our own good. They are that afraid of Covid.

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People who are in favor in tyranny are those who vote in politicians like Trudeau. The socialist/communist politicians are indeed a problem, but the root problem is the voters themselves. Nazi Germany is a good example... brainwash the people who aren't in favor of government control and disarm all so that if the truth should prevail, the populace has no power to get rid of those in control. This has been a repeated cycle throughout history.
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Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. He is not a good man who, without a protest, allows wrong to be committed in his name, and with the means which he helps to supply, because he will not trouble himself to use his mind on the subject. - John Stuart Mill
A simplified form of that quote which is commonly said is: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,"

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Right you are!

Unfortunately, all parties in Canada except PPC, are in favor of Vaccine Passports.
Last September 1st there was a Canada wide protest against vaccine passports, which many people who were vaccinated participated in, mainly because they disagree with forced vaccine passports.
Unfortunately, although like any protest it brings out the crazies. The minority of them, behaved bad and others including some of my family members painted them all with the same brush.

Let me just say, that if I always said (even politely) around many of my family members what was on my mind, it would not end well. I want to do something, but if I do, it may end up as me as being an outcast from my family.

Let me add that unfortunately, even Reformed Churches in Canada have fallen prey to the lies of Trudeau concerning Covid. The members of these Reformed Churches would never vote for Trudeau. They usually vote for the Conservatives, who unfortunately agree with Trudeau on this issue as well. My former Church (yes I left it, sigh...) was the most Conservative Church, I have ever been a member of. Unfortunately, believes that Romans chapter 13 teaches we must obey the government. Many of the denominations (FIRE) Churches in the USA (of who the pastor is friends with) are completely against that understanding of Romans chapter 13 and are very vocal about it. That Church has actually split over the issue and caused a Church plant taking an elder with it, and another member who has pastor credentials.

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Let me just say, that if I always said (even politely) around many of my family members what was on my mind, it would not end well. I want to do something, but if I do, it may end up as me as being an outcast from my family.
2 Timothy 3:12 (KJV) "Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution."


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Believe me, all family members know my position on the issue and are not interested in hearing me say anything else. When I was saying things, they would counter that information with the rhetoric of what health officials are saying. In other words, the information that I believe, is discarded as unreliable. In my family, I have many people in the health profession, including nurses and people dealing directly with what is called "Long Covid", all believe what their health officials say. They may not agree with some of how it is handled, but for the most part believe they are acting in the best interests of society.

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No guarantee that this is still available. Believe the science!! evilgrin

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Unfortunately when facts are given the health officials give their own spin on them and many believe that spin.
For example, news out of Israel that boasts the highest proportion of people vaccinated, has admitted that the vaccine is not working. The Delta Variant seems to be impervious to the vaccines. Still in the same article they contradict this fact and say that still studies prove that you are better off if you get the Delta Variant if you are vaccinated, than if you are not vaccinated. They claim that they need even more people vaccinated.

A like minded Christian friend and I were discussing this and he has come to the conclusion that unless he believes the person is teachable, he will no longer open his mouth concerning the matter. For example, one person said to him:
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(name omitted) your watching too many conspiracy theories.
. He did of course, respond to this, but his response was brushed aside. The person had already made up their mind.

There are of course some situations that make it so their reaction is understandable. For example, in the former small city we lived in for 18 years, had a huge outbreak of Covid last March, which many people I know got. One in particular is a friend who is 74 years old. While the whole family got Covid, he got so sick he was put on a respirator for weeks and was in a medically induced coma. It was touch and go for a while, but he pulled through, but still has some breathing issues from it. That of course, made my own family members extremely worried about people like myself, who has not been vaccinated. They attribute the high numbers of vaccines since that time in that small city, to almost 0 numbers with Covid. They are so emotional about it, I believe they think it speaks for itself. Nothing could be said, could prove otherwise.
I myself, am close to the age where they saying are high risk. So this is the main reason why family members are very concerned about me. One person believes I am very selfish.

Tom

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You can tell the absolute truth and get no 'takers'. But that doesn't negate the truth but the sad state of the hearers. If someone refuses to hear the truth, then you shake the dust of your sandals and move on. But if no one tells the truth, how will they know the truth. Does all this sound familiar. Yes, it is particularly true concerning the Gospel, but the principle is certainly applicable to all facets of life. wink


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Meet Communist China’s own Dr. Leana Wen selling the Boston Marathon Bombing with green screen and all ….



Dr Wen and Planned Parenthood


Dr Wen and CNN




Verdict:
Global Tyranny in the name of public health and the common good. nope


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