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"Every aspect of Sanctification is Monergistic.
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
*The branch only BRINGS FORTH what is supplied to it by the vine. No branch brings forth fruit in and of itself. The Christian only brings forth fruit as it is produced Monergistically by the Holy Spirit."

While it is true that we only work out what the Holy Spirit works in, the Holy Spirit does not believe for us, pray for us, serve for us. So in regard to sanctification wouldn't it be more accurate to say that it is synergistic? I realize that some people want to interpret this as contributing to salvation which confuses justification with sanctification.

Am I off track here?


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Originally Posted by ATulipNotADaisy
This quote:

"Every aspect of Sanctification is Monergistic.
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
*The branch only BRINGS FORTH what is supplied to it by the vine. No branch brings forth fruit in and of itself. The Christian only brings forth fruit as it is produced Monergistically by the Holy Spirit."

While it is true that we only work out what the Holy Spirit works in, the Holy Spirit does not believe for us, pray for us, serve for us. So in regard to sanctification wouldn't it be more accurate to say that it is synergistic? I realize that some people want to interpret this as contributing to salvation which confuses justification with sanctification.

Am I off track here?
nope You are on the right track! grin The regenerated believer is truly indwelt by the Holy Spirit who guides, motivates and guards this person in all things unto sanctification. However, as you rightly wrote, the Holy Spirit does not repent, believe, strive after holiness, put on the new man, etc., etc. This is the responsibility of the person made possible by the Spirit's work within, e.g.,

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Philippians 2:12-16 (ASV) 12 So then, my beloved, even as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure. 14 Do all things without murmurings and questionings: 15 that ye may become blameless and harmless, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation, among whom ye are seen as lights in the world, 16 holding forth the word of life; that I may have whereof to glory in the day of Christ, that I did not run in vain neither labor in vain.
Because our 'good works' which the believer is ordained unto (Eph 2:10) to WALK therein are imperfect, they are of no value to obtaining justification. Sanctification is the EVIDENCE/FRUIT of justification; not the mediate cause of justification. In Paul's epistles, typically the second half of them, he speaks to the matter of sanctification with myriad "do's & don'ts" which are addressed to the believer. IF sanctification is monergistic, then Paul would be addressing the Holy Spirit which would be total nonsense. [Linked Image]


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