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I listened to a talk on the Separation of Church and State, that I thought some here might be interested in listening to. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...AA25019696F4A9E33AB2AA25&FORM=VDQVAPTom
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He is correct in insisting that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, namely the legislative branch, i.e., Congress (House of Representatives and/or Senate) is forbidden to establish a national religion to which all citizens must accept and obey. Good lecture.
I am motivated to add, that the converse is also true. Ministers of the Church may not and thus cannot preach politics from the pulpit, i.e., for corporate worship. They are to preach the Scriptures ONLY and make application of it. IF, however, an Elder desires to discuss, lecture, inform members and/or visitors about political issues, this is permissible, but it must be done separate from the official corporate worship of God on the Sabbath... IMO!!
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Pilgrim You said: I am motivated to add, that the converse is also true. Ministers of the Church may not and thus cannot preach politics from the pulpit, i.e., for corporate worship. They are to preach the Scriptures ONLY and make application of it. IF, however, an Elder desires to discuss, lecture, inform members and/or visitors about political issues, this is permissible, but it must be done separate from the official corporate worship of God on the Sabbath... IMO!! As you may or may not know, in Canada with the passing of Bill C-4, Churches across the USA and Canada in a united effort to speak to this issue decided to take take away from their regular preaching schedule to speak on what the Bible says about the creation of men and women and biblical sexuality from the Bible. This was done January 16th 2022. One of the main people who were involved on this issue is John MacArthur. An example from Bill C-4, that this was designed to address is the section from Bill C-4 that stated that the view that states that there are only two genders, is a dangerous myth. (from memory). The Gospel Coalition came out against Churches becoming involved in this, mainly because they said that it is dangerous to get homosexuals mad. Rather according to them (I believe wrongly) they said there is nothing in the language that shows pastors can be convicted of hate crimes. Do you believe these Churches are correct to preach this, "on the Lord's day"?
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Do you believe these Churches are correct to preach this, "on the Lord's day"? Let me answer that question with a question, which the Lord Christ did in several situations. Does the Bible address the issue of homosexuality and other sexual perversions? Paul, through the inspiration of the Spirit, clearly states that ministers of the Gospel are to "preach the Word, 2 Timothy 4:1-4 (ASV) 1 I charge [thee] in the sight of God, and of Christ Jesus, who shall judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word; be urgent in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure the sound doctrine; but, having itching ears, will heap to themselves teachers after their own lusts; 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth, and turn aside unto fables. ... and Titus 1:9 (ASV) 9 holding to the faithful word which is according to the teaching, that he may be able to exhort in the sound doctrine, and to convict the gainsayers. Titus 2:1 (ASV) 1 But speak thou the things which befit the sound doctrine:... Who cares if LGBTQ, etc. adherents get mad? What godly men should be most concerned with is making God angry by neglecting preaching the "whole counsel of God" and/or dumbing down, distorting, or especially denying God's inspired written revelation.
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Pilgrim
That is the way, I was hoping you would reply. I was just clarifying; because I wanted to be completely sure I understood you. Indeed, who cares if they get mad!
Thanks Tom
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