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I am hearing reports that many children who have been vaccinated are getting
things like myocarditis and other reactions to the Covid vaccines.
Some are saying that some of them are dying from the vaccines.


When I try to find out if there is actual proof of this; I can’t find any.

Does anyone have information that shows proof one way or another?

Tom

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You will not find most of this info by searching for it, because it's been very actively and effectively censored.

But here are some sites where you will find some info. (Not an endorsement; I can't get behind all the information on these sites, but have found a great deal of it useful.)

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/
https://www.skirsch.io/vaccine-resources/
https://www.independentsentinel.com/?s=myocarditis
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/
https://www.lewrockwell.com/?s=myocarditis


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Originally Posted by Tom
I am hearing reports that many children who have been vaccinated are getting
things like myocarditis and other reactions to the Covid vaccines.
Some are saying that some of them are dying from the vaccines.


When I try to find out if there is actual proof of this; I can’t find any.

Does anyone have information that shows proof one way or another
Tom

You can't find any because it doesn't exist.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/cor...nts-in-9-million-doses-cdc-says/3472727/

The first website that jta provided above is Robert Kennedy, Jr. a known anti-vaxxer.
The last is Lew Rockwell who entertains all sort of nut jobs. I know this because I used to follow him. I finally had to come up out of the rabbit hole and reenter reality.

When I did these are some of the reputable sources I turned to.

Peter J. Hotez, MD ,PhD, Dean of Baylor College of Medicine
Paul A. Offit, MD. Childrens Hospital of Philadelphia
Daniel O. Griffin MD, Infectious Disease Specialist and president of Parasites without Borders
Vincent R. Racaniello, Professor of Microbiology and Immunology, Columbia's College of Physicians and Surgeons. He also has a YouTube channel TWIV (This week in virology) which is a wealth of information.


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Personally speaking, I do not trust the site you gave me above. It flies in the face of what I have come to believe about Covid vaccines.

Perhaps you would like me to show you, an example of why?



Unfortunately, the above link was taken down by Youtube. However, it has 8 very prominent doctors, including Dr. Malone who is responsible for the mRNA technology. He says these vaccines were meant for the very vulnerable such as the elderly. They also never went through the rigorous testing that all other vaccines must go through to be approved. Our governments take the word of the Pharmacy companies that produce the vaccines that they have done the necessary testing.

I am not surprised that this was taken down from Youtube; but it is a real shame.

By now you have heard of the 'Great Reset' headed up by Klaus Schwab. I believe these vaccines are linked to the 'Great Reset'. 'The Great Reset' is far from a conspiracy theory; for they have not tried to hide it. There are some very prominent people involved in it; including the Prime Minister of Canada Justin Trudeau.

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I thought I would include something from my studies on this issue.
There are a few links in it and I have not checked to find out if they have been taken down.

Our Covid World
According to Pfizer immunologists those who have already had Covid-19 and recovered, have better natural immunity than those who are fully vaccinated. This has been confirmed in Israel as well; they are the most immunized country in the world; they are already into their 4th shot. Yet they say the same thing as the Pfizer immunologist.
Some say you need to recover first from Covid-19. This is correct and nobody should overlook this; yet according to numbers, over 99% that get Covid-19 recover.
Others point out that while getting vaccinated does not guarantee one does not get Covid-19. Never the less, it makes one less likely to get seriously sick and wind up in the ICU.
That may be the case; but other countries are reporting that the majority of their Covid-19 cases in the ICU are fully vaccinated. (this is something, I am hoping to get confirmed)
There are other things that are happening, such as an Ontario doctor resigned because she could not go along with what was happening anymore. She believes that Ontario Health System has crossed ethical lines throughout the Pandemic. Read about this at: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ontario-er-doctor-resigns-over-mandatory-vaccines-and-falsehoods/
This particular doctor estimated that 80 percent of the patients she saw in the ER during the past month who had inexplicable symptoms were “double vaxxed.”
The reason why I included this is because, in my research over the last while concerning vaccines; I have been seeing a troubling trend among those who have been fully vaccinated and that particular doctors story is right in keeping with what my research is telling me. There are literally thousands of double vaccinated people, who have not been the same since they got vaccinated. Yet for the most part are being ignored and even, told things like the way they are feeling actually proves the vaccine is working.
Fortunately there are organizations that are listening to them and trying to help. Yet the government health officials combat this, with information contrary to these people.
There are however, many doctors and medical scientists that are risking their medical licenses because they believe among other things they must obey their hippocratic oath. Last month, for example over 11,100 doctors and medical scientists met together for the ‘Physicians Declaration Global Summit’ in Roman Italy’. https://doctorsandscientistsdeclara...5r9ahXwEqlWtktimcuREXN6E1xQP_U&amp=1
Here is a short excerpt: “WHEREAS, thousands of physicians are being prevented from providing treatment to their patients, as a result of barriers put up by pharmacies, hospitals, and public health agencies, rendering the vast majority of healthcare providers helpless to protect their patients in the face of disease. Physicians are now advising their patients to simply go home (allowing the virus to replicate) and return when their disease worsens, resulting in hundreds of thousands of unnecessary patient deaths, due to failure-to-treat;”
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“RESOLVED, that the political intrusion into the practice of medicine and the physician/patient relationship must end. Physicians, and all health care providers, must be free to practice the art and science of medicine without fear of retribution, censorship, slander, or disciplinary action, including possible loss of licensure and hospital privileges, loss of insurance contracts and interference from government entities and organizations – which further prevent us from caring for patients in need. More than ever, the right and ability to exchange objective scientific findings, which further our understanding of disease, must be protected.”

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I thought you might be interested the following link concerning vaccine injuries in the Canadian province I live in.

https://www.rebelnews.com/vaccine_i...utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel

I would be interested in your thoughts.

Just thought I would let you know, that I have talked to quite a few people who have been vaccinated and buy into the narrative the government has thrown at us. They will not even look at this kind of stuff, believing it is all "fake news".

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"Dr. Malone, who is responsible for the mRNA technology". uh No.

https://respectfulinsolence.com/?s=Robert+Malone. This article is from the blog of David Gorski MD, PhD.

Worldwide there have been 11.7 BILLION doses of covid vaccine given and 4.69 BILLION people fully vaccinated.
If there were a problem common sense tells me we would know it by now as all vaccine side effects show up in the first 6-8 weeks after injection.

I knew it was a long shot that you would listen to reason.

You have posted numerous questions, topics, and articles that show your clear confirmation bias.

That's all. I have nothing else to say.


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There is an obvious difference in perspective here.

Some of us are willing to believe institutions that have lied over and over and over and OVER again. Repeatedly. Many times. And who cannot even get their lies straight.

Others of us are not.


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So you are claiming Dr. Malone is not who he and others are claiming he is?

Tom

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Originally Posted by jta
There is an obvious difference in perspective here.

Some of us are willing to believe institutions that have lied over and over and over and OVER again. Repeatedly. Many times. And who cannot even get their lies straight.

Others of us are not.

Although I have done some other research on my own. What you said here, is basically the reason why I thought it necessary to do so.

Why would I trust them?

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Tom, I was responding to another poster, not you. Hope that was clear. The government, media, and other power centers of what we used to call "Western civilization" lie, just as does their father, the devil. Sometimes with great subtlety, and at other times with such brazen boldness it is hard to fathom. There are otherwise sound Christian people who believe those lies, but I am not one of them. At least, I try not to be.


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I was actually agreeing with you.

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