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#58862 Fri Feb 09, 2024 9:27 PM
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Galatians 5:16 Question

Galatians 5:16 says: “So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.”

This would seem to indicate that believers do not always “walk in the Spirit” and when we do not we will “gratify the desires of the flesh.”

Is that the correct way to understand this?

A friend of mine does not think so.

He says: “…believers are not “in the flesh” they are “in the Spirit.”

Thought?

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I have also wondered on this to me its like Ephesians 5;18 be filled with the spirit a continually being filed,i hope others more learned will help us with this Daily confession of sin and yielding to God
Bob

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Believers ... true believers are indwelt by the Spirit AND they are not perfected in this life but rather still possess a remnant of their old nature. Thus, there is a war within the believer where the sinfulness remaining influences the new nature as the believer is being conformed to the image of Christ. Thus, we seen in the Epistles, e.g., Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, and Collosians, they being divided into two parts; the first being basically doctrinal in emphasis and the latter being praxis (application to life of the previous doctrines). In those latter sections there are myriad injunctions to "do" this and that; to live in this manner and to not live in that manner. It is the Spirit who guides, strengthens and enables believers to walk by the Spirit, to pray in the Spirit, etc. Sanctification is 'synergistic' (cf. Eph 2:8-10; Phi. 2:12,13; et al). All the injunctions are addressed to believers and NOT to the Spirit. They are responsible to put off the old man and to put on the new according to the Spirit. And lastly, as you are surely aware, Paul's autobiographical record found the the second half of Romans 7 teaches and illustrates this dichotomy, war, suffering, and striving that exists with the final word of victory to all who are truly "in Christ".


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thank you Sanctification is synergistic God may sober up a person but its the persons job to keep the plug in the jug sorry laymens understanding I have to do my part . trudging the road of happy destiny


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