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J_Edwards said:
I must come to Marie’s defense here as I don’t think Judas ever “finished” the Lord’s Supper.

First of all, I hope it didn't sound like I was attacking Marie. I pretty much agree with her, but I was just throwing that point out for discussion (which seemed to have worked since I learned some new things :grin).

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Passover celebrations involve four cups of wine, so it seems more likely that Jesus was observing a similar ceremony with multiple cups of wine. The 4-Cups of wine used in the Passover symbolize the 4 distinct redemptions promised by God to the Hebrews as told in Exod 6:6-7: (1) "I will take you out of Egypt," (2) "I will deliver you from Egyptian slavery," (3) "I will redeem you with a demonstration of my power," and (4) "I will acquire you as a nation". Since each of these cups of wine symbolize an action that was performed by God, Jews fill a small cup with wine at 4 different points in the Passover and drink each cup of wine…..


Do you have a good reference for these customs? I am not familiar with the four cups of wine and their symbolism.

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Jesus after the 2nd cup, then said someone is going to betray me… Judas dipped his hand…. Judas left.

Please note that the other TWO cups of wine had not yet been drunk and thus Judas never completed the Passover meal, though he did eat and drink damnation to himself in the "part" he did partake in (1 Cor 11:29).

Would you mind explaining how you came about this chronology a little more. I re-read through all the gospel accounts again, and it is not clear to me how this chronology is arrived at. I do agree completely that Judas did eat and drink damnation to himself in the part he did partake in.

John