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li0scc0 said: What powers are attributed in this that are powers of God alone? It seems to me that the writer is stating that Bush's policies have caused such to happen. The writer relates this to socio-economics, not God's (or Bush's) sovereignty. I really don't want to drag this discussion out, but I'll answer this one question. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> No man has the power to bring to pass that which he desires or thinks and therefore wills. God's desire always and infallibly results in that which He desires to occur; He is sovereign. President Bush, undeniably, has many ideas a desires in regard to what he would like to see happen for and in the United States. But he is powerless to bring them to pass. Nearly everything must be approved and voted on by the House of Representatives and the Senate, which consists of hundreds of individuals. Second, any President may have a good (biblical) policy which is accepted and voted into law by Congress. But that is no guarantee that the policy will then result in its intended goal. Let's never forget that the "good citizens" of the United States, who are no different than any other country's citizens, are for the most part sinners. And thus it is impossible that any policy can be implemented perfectly and guarantee the results intended. But God can certainly do that and continues to do that by His providence. Third, for the record, I have no delusion as to the spiritual state of George W. Bush. Just because he professes to be a Christian does not make it so. He has far too much "evidence" against him that would not allow me to accept his profession at face value. But nevertheless, he has been ordained by God to be the President of the United States and therefore I am obligated to pray for him, to support him in his decisions when they are not contrary to biblical principles, etc. I am also to respect the man as God's appointed agent and not denigrate him, bring unfounded and/or unwarranted charges against his character or his policies. Further, I am forbidden, as is true for all men, not to bring false witness against him as is forbidden in the Ninth Commandment. And thus, such things as is found in this corruption of the 23rd Psalm is subject to criticism and rejection. Lastly.... it is my firm belief that the Federal Government is not responsible to cure all men's social ills, which for the most part, they have brought upon themselves. The homeless man who sleeps on a park bench in Central Park in the cold is NOT the fault nor responsibility of the office of the President of the United States, nor that of Congress. So, it is fallacious to blame this one man for his misfortune, for whatever reason the cause. In His Grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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