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doulos said:
Oh you know that whole wisdom of the world vs. wisdom of God thing. I was merely (attempting) to state that if you do the math in a logical, scientific, HUMAN way that it doesn't make sense. Its a big jump from there to here, but not a logical one.

With the Spirit, of course it all meshes together and we understand, but was it so easy before? I don't think so. It wasn't logical.
Perhaps the problem here is one in regard to the doctrine concerning the noetic effects of the Fall? Man's "total depravity" is one of moral inability, i.e., he hates all that is good, right, etc. Although it is true that all of our being has been negatively effected to one degree or another, fallen man can still think reasonably and logically. If this were not so, then those who reject the truth could not be held responsible for doing so. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

When the Bible speaks of the Gospel being "foolishness" to the unregenerate, it isn't referring to something illogical, but rather to man's natural hatred and aversion to it. Some of the most intellectually gifted Atheists are able to understand what the Bible teaches far better than many believers. Their problem is not one of comprehension but of acceptance and personal application, i.e., they either deny what the Bible teaches is propositionally true and/or that it is of any relevance to them. (cf. Rom 1:18-23; Acts 17:1f)


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